The return of David Moyes

Happy or not

  • Yes

    Votes: 271 25.3%

  • No

    Votes: 365 34.0%

  • Meh. Needs must.

    Votes: 436 40.7%
  • Total voters
    1,072
  • Poll closed .
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supertoffee98 said:
As someone who was championing Dyche for a year or two before we eventually got him, I'm not arguing with him going. He was the right man at the time, but stopped being the right man.

If it was up to me Moyes would be nowhere in the conversation. I'm just not convinced by his latest West Ham stint that he's up to the task we are (a task a lot bigger than West Ham). We need a long term appointment with an attacking and modern playing style that ultimately sorts all these ongoing fitness issues.
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attacking style? christ
 

Mutzo Nutzo said:
The games moved on from when he was last here. If you believe we will get regular 7th/8th placed finishes under him then you’re in fantasy land.

We need a progressive forward-thinking coach. He’s none of that. Happy for him to guide us to safety this season but he then needs to be replaced in the Summer.
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Very much tongue in cheek referring to what I believe his performance ceiling is.
And before the Moyesettes jump in - yes that would be better than the last 8 seasons or whatever, but that doesn’t make it good enough.

Furthermore, saying that we should take that for now etc is further evidence of the Moyes Mind Virus - where your expectations have been lowered sufficiently for mid-table mediocrity to be cause for celebration.
 
supertoffee98 said:
As someone who was championing Dyche for a year or two before we eventually got him, I'm not arguing with him going. He was the right man at the time, but stopped being the right man.

If it was up to me Moyes would be nowhere in the conversation. I'm just not convinced by his latest West Ham stint that he's up to the task we are (a task a lot bigger than West Ham). We need a long term appointment with an attacking and modern playing style that ultimately sorts all these ongoing fitness issues.
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What we need right now is to stay in the Premier League. The long term fantasy appointment is for another day. Sadly this is where the previous incumbent has left us.
 

Portoman said:
I'd prefer someone new tbh, someone with a different vision rather than the usual PL manager merry-go-round.

But, I'm not against Moyes coming.

. What have Everton fans got against him though?
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Without wanting to speak for everyone, I would say some things some fans have against him are as follows:

- the way he left the club and spoke about the club after he left
- very negative brand of football
- general very negative outlook on football and always trying to lower expectations as much as possible
- just feels like a return to where the club used to be rather than looking forward to what it could become
 
Right now, nothing else (nothing else) matters except keeping us up. It’s the only thing on the to do list.

Young, progressive coaches, expansive football, long-term plans… all of that is for another day. If Moyes can keep us up, get us safely into that new stadium, then I’ll take him. However dreary an appointment it may seem.
 
supertoffee98 said:
As someone who was championing Dyche for a year or two before we eventually got him, I'm not arguing with him going. He was the right man at the time, but stopped being the right man.

If it was up to me Moyes would be nowhere in the conversation. I'm just not convinced by his latest West Ham stint that he's up to the task we are (a task a lot bigger than West Ham). We need a long term appointment with an attacking and modern playing style that ultimately sorts all these ongoing fitness issues.
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There was nothing wrong with championing dyche last year. He did the job asked.
This season its been abysmal since day one. Defending him was insanity. He's looked finished for months.
 

Honestly moyes any longer than past the end of the season is will be pathetic. What we’ve had after him until now and then end up back at Moyes with another new owner and that’s the direction we’re going in get out of here Everton I’m done with this 💩. If it’s until the end of the season don’t care whether we end up in 10th and he moves on then it’s job done and thank you.
 
davek said:
I had @Goat the other day singing the praises of rats like O'Keeffe and Boyland.

It's amazing how quickly fans forget they were central to backing owners even when they accused fans of criminal activity, but when they write something they agree with all is forgiven.

Zero character.
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I don't mind Boyland TBF. O'Keefe is a bad weasel though. Seemed to have been banished to the USMNT after that headlock business, but recently there are signs he might be trying to weasel his way back into covering Everton. The last article I read of his was just after TFG takeover had been confirmed, IMO his article was a subtle suggestion that the BK years are what we should be aiming to get back to. No doubt today's article will be more of the same.
 
Billy Dean said:
Without wanting to speak for everyone, I would say some things some fans have against him are as follows:

- the way he left the club and spoke about the club after he left
- very negative brand of football
- general very negative outlook on football and always trying to lower expectations as much as possible
- just feels like a return to where the club used to be rather than looking forward to what it could become
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Wouldn't mind returning to how we were for a season. When I saw Dyche had been sacked I almost exploded with joy. Just a shame I didn't find out until late afternoon so couldn't join in with the immediate celebrations
 

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