The senior players at Everton: do they need to go before we can prosper?

[sageyefc]

Baines can stay as back up the rest can g2f

 

[Connor]

Leave Bainesy out of it, yeah?

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Keep them all. For ever and ever and ever.

 

[Gladystweet]

Keep them all. For ever and ever and ever.

In Amber.

 

[cronullasharks]

Wouldn't surprise me if all of them are still hear next season tbh. Doubt any of them would earn more money elsewhere unless an American or Chinese team want rooney

 

[davek]

I don't think many would object to all of them being replaced as players, but I'm not sure about the 'alternative power source' stuff. Things went pear shaped under Martinez when the players seemed to down tools, and only two of your five were at the club then. I don't doubt there is something rotten at the club, but it's far from clear cut where the blame actually lies.

We cant know for sure, but the events since the last two years under Martinez to the present (including the trying and dismissing of three managers if Unsworth is thrown in - because I think we saw a lack of fight for him too) is disturbing.

Yes, managers are to blame too, of course they are. But senior players have gone missing way too many times in recent years and the suspicion (shared by outsiders) is that is a conscious decision.

 

[Gladystweet]

I just want eleven winners on the pitch.

And a winning manager.

 

[davek]

Leave Bainesy out of it, yeah?

I'd love to leave him out of it.....

 

[davek]

I just want eleven winners on the pitch.

And a winning manager.

For that you need commitment and all elements pulling in the same direction together.

 

[Connor]

I'd love to leave him out of it.....

Live and let live, D.

He got it spot on about our one-time Catalan Prince.

 

[cronullasharks]

For that you need commitment and all elements pulling in the same direction together.

Including the fan base Dave. So you will worship Bainesy..

 

[Gladystweet]

For that you need commitment and all elements pulling in the same direction together.

Agreed. I think some are confusing leaders with winners.

 

[davek]

Live and let live, D.

He got it spot on about our one-time Catalan Prince.

Pfffft!

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I'll reply more sensibly - I am inclined to off Rooney from the wage bill, but who the hell will take him?

Williams and Jagielka are our most experienced centre backs. First out the door for me would be Williams. I wouldn't be expecting Jags to play regularly but he's reasonable back up. But if we got in a solid experienced centre back or two I'd let him go.

Baines I'd keep for another season but not as our sole left back. He needs to be phased out by a high quality successor.

Schneiderlin? Just unreliable, out.

 

[magicjuan]

If you have 'energy players' like Gana and Davies and surround them with the aged performers then there is no dynamism at all in the team and we look slow, labourious, lethargic and without ideas....

I think I've stumbled on something here...