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Cheers mate....was thinking maybe tag a few days on to the Phoenix trip to do a bit of a road trip on motor bikes...any ideas?

Depends largely on when you are going. If the summer, might be a bad idea. Phoenix can get HOT. It's a massive sprawling concrete city (the metro area, including Tempe, Mesa, etc is 9,000 square miles) in a desert. It will hit 46C regularly during the summer, so leathering up might make one uncomfortable. Also AZ is significantly larger than Great Britain (295,000sqkm to 210,000sqkm) so my idea of a road trip might be a bit more than what your accustomed to.


Destinations!

NORTH by Northwest


Sedona, That said, depending upon your time frame, Sedona would be the most obvious road trip. It's about 2 hours or so from Phoenix, depending upon where you start within the city. So it's not terribly far away, is a really cool place with wonderful scenery, lots of hippies

Click here for pics.

Grand Canyon!


3 hours or so from Phoenix, and you could conceivably go to Sedona first as it's almost the half way point of one of the routes. No need for pics, I'm sure you've seen them. You'd also pass through Flagstaff, Arizona of Route 66 fame, which is much higher in altitude and thus much cooler.

Prescott
could also be doable on a 3 day jaunt. Sedona->Canyon->Prescott. The historic (for the US) downtown is pretty cool, t


Vegas

If you are feeling like a trooper, you could even do Las Vegas. Maybe a 7 hour drive, and depending upon the route you could cross the Hoover Dam along the way. Though Vegas would be a better stop on it's own rather than roadie.


South

And while I am from, and proud of, Tucson, I'd still suggest going north, as the northern half the state as it's generally more scenic.

Tucson, while it's only two hours or so to the south, with the exception of Picacho Peak, it is widely acknowledged as "The most boring drive ever". Tucson has some national parks and is a UNESCO food site. No joke. If you did go, though, depending upon when, you could stay downtown at the Hotel Congress, where Dillinger was apprehended, and if on the weekend you could get up bright and early, stroll about 100m down the street to the Playground Bar & Grill to catch Prem action and drink some craft beer. They usually open at 7 or 8am for about 7-10 footie fans. One kopite (actually from Liverpool) a couple blues, and assorted others. And I could provide some great food recs.

IF you did Tucson, you could also augment with a day trip or stop over in Bisbee. It's maybe two hours from Tucson, is a really cool arty-hippie former mining boom town (bring cash, though, most places there don't use debit cards. or didn't 5 years ago. no joke.), and would pass through Tombstone on the way.

Or, if you like wine, further south of Tucson, but not as far away as Tombstone/Bisbee is Sonoita and Elgin, where there are some surprisingly decent vineyards. But basically doing a bar crawl with wine glasses on motorcycles might not be the best call.

I'd steer clear of Nogales, no idea what the border crossing situation would be like now, particularly being a foreigner to both countries, and avoid any of our national parks along the border as well. Not safe. Not a joke.

East

Showlow is pretty cool to the east, national parks, trees, and more than a few degrees cooler than Phoenix.
 

Anyone able to explain the following to me?

July 19, 2017: business class ticket from Heathrow to Cape Town (return, direct) on BA is £4205 pp

Same date: Business class ticket from Amsterdam to Cape Town (return, indirect via Heathrow) on BA is £1859 pp

The indirect route changes planes at Heathrow.... and uses the same 21:30pm flight to Cape Town as the direct route. Same flight number, same plane. How on EARTH can it less than half the price to start the journey in Amsterdam?????
 
Anyone able to explain the following to me?

July 19, 2017: business class ticket from Heathrow to Cape Town (return, direct) on BA is £4205 pp

Same date: Business class ticket from Amsterdam to Cape Town (return, indirect via Heathrow) on BA is £1859 pp

The indirect route changes planes at Heathrow.... and uses the same 21:30pm flight to Cape Town as the direct route. Same flight number, same plane. How on EARTH can it less than half the price to start the journey in Amsterdam?????

That is pretty insane, though sanity is not always found around the Airlines.

Went traveling back home to Asuncion from Phoenix in January, it was $200 cheaper for us to fly Phoenix->LA->Santiago, Chile->Asuncion than it would have been to fly Phoenix->LA->Santiago. We actually paid significantly less money for one more flight.
 
Going on a stag doo to Prague next month.

How much are the cost of pints and cigarettes? And what's the best clubs.

Only two nights we are going so not
going to waste it sight seeing.
 
Going on a stag doo to Prague next month.

How much are the cost of pints and cigarettes? And what's the best clubs.

Only two nights we are going so not
going to waste it sight seeing.

It's cheap if you go the right places and costs a few quid if you don't. All the bars and clubs are easy to find, none much better than the other tbh.
 
Going on a stag doo to Prague next month.

How much are the cost of pints and cigarettes? And what's the best clubs.

Only two nights we are going so not
going to waste it sight seeing.
https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=13&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwibgZ7YjO3SAhUMIMAKHVIFCbAQFghfMAw&url=http://www.karlovylazne.cz/&usg=AFQjCNE4z1iLTtWRAp0fm0l16xFRn0dhSA

check out this place.we went midweek so it wasn't fully crowded but decent spot and at weekends id say it is hopping.ice bar attached to it as well.rocky o reillys not a bad spot either.
 

Depends largely on when you are going. If the summer, might be a bad idea. Phoenix can get HOT. It's a massive sprawling concrete city (the metro area, including Tempe, Mesa, etc is 9,000 square miles) in a desert. It will hit 46C regularly during the summer, so leathering up might make one uncomfortable. Also AZ is significantly larger than Great Britain (295,000sqkm to 210,000sqkm) so my idea of a road trip might be a bit more than what your accustomed to.


Destinations!

NORTH by Northwest


Sedona, That said, depending upon your time frame, Sedona would be the most obvious road trip. It's about 2 hours or so from Phoenix, depending upon where you start within the city. So it's not terribly far away, is a really cool place with wonderful scenery, lots of hippies

Click here for pics.

Grand Canyon!


3 hours or so from Phoenix, and you could conceivably go to Sedona first as it's almost the half way point of one of the routes. No need for pics, I'm sure you've seen them. You'd also pass through Flagstaff, Arizona of Route 66 fame, which is much higher in altitude and thus much cooler.

Prescott
could also be doable on a 3 day jaunt. Sedona->Canyon->Prescott. The historic (for the US) downtown is pretty cool, t


Vegas

If you are feeling like a trooper, you could even do Las Vegas. Maybe a 7 hour drive, and depending upon the route you could cross the Hoover Dam along the way. Though Vegas would be a better stop on it's own rather than roadie.


South

And while I am from, and proud of, Tucson, I'd still suggest going north, as the northern half the state as it's generally more scenic.

Tucson, while it's only two hours or so to the south, with the exception of Picacho Peak, it is widely acknowledged as "The most boring drive ever". Tucson has some national parks and is a UNESCO food site. No joke. If you did go, though, depending upon when, you could stay downtown at the Hotel Congress, where Dillinger was apprehended, and if on the weekend you could get up bright and early, stroll about 100m down the street to the Playground Bar & Grill to catch Prem action and drink some craft beer. They usually open at 7 or 8am for about 7-10 footie fans. One kopite (actually from Liverpool) a couple blues, and assorted others. And I could provide some great food recs.

IF you did Tucson, you could also augment with a day trip or stop over in Bisbee. It's maybe two hours from Tucson, is a really cool arty-hippie former mining boom town (bring cash, though, most places there don't use debit cards. or didn't 5 years ago. no joke.), and would pass through Tombstone on the way.

Or, if you like wine, further south of Tucson, but not as far away as Tombstone/Bisbee is Sonoita and Elgin, where there are some surprisingly decent vineyards. But basically doing a bar crawl with wine glasses on motorcycles might not be the best call.

I'd steer clear of Nogales, no idea what the border crossing situation would be like now, particularly being a foreigner to both countries, and avoid any of our national parks along the border as well. Not safe. Not a joke.

East

Showlow is pretty cool to the east, national parks, trees, and more than a few degrees cooler than Phoenix.

Cheers for the heads up obc...really appreciate you taking the time and effort to pass on such great info. Will speak with my mate and see if any if that grabs him...certainly grabs me.
 
For those who don't like flying I just had 9 hours of lumpy weather from Heathrow to Johannesburg last night where only the final 2 hours were smooth. Most notably, we took a dogs-leg detour around the Democratic Republic of Congo due to fairly heavy turbulence which I guess is related to crossing the Equator?
On the plus side what is generally just over twelve hours flight actually only took eleven hours and the normally rammed customs at O.R Tambo was a dream...shame about the heavy rain and thunder/lightening storm in the afternoon.
 
Depends largely on when you are going. If the summer, might be a bad idea. Phoenix can get HOT. It's a massive sprawling concrete city (the metro area, including Tempe, Mesa, etc is 9,000 square miles) in a desert. It will hit 46C regularly during the summer, so leathering up might make one uncomfortable. Also AZ is significantly larger than Great Britain (295,000sqkm to 210,000sqkm) so my idea of a road trip might be a bit more than what your accustomed to.


Destinations!

NORTH by Northwest


Sedona, That said, depending upon your time frame, Sedona would be the most obvious road trip. It's about 2 hours or so from Phoenix, depending upon where you start within the city. So it's not terribly far away, is a really cool place with wonderful scenery, lots of hippies

Click here for pics.

Grand Canyon!


3 hours or so from Phoenix, and you could conceivably go to Sedona first as it's almost the half way point of one of the routes. No need for pics, I'm sure you've seen them. You'd also pass through Flagstaff, Arizona of Route 66 fame, which is much higher in altitude and thus much cooler.

Prescott
could also be doable on a 3 day jaunt. Sedona->Canyon->Prescott. The historic (for the US) downtown is pretty cool, t


Vegas

If you are feeling like a trooper, you could even do Las Vegas. Maybe a 7 hour drive, and depending upon the route you could cross the Hoover Dam along the way. Though Vegas would be a better stop on it's own rather than roadie.


South

And while I am from, and proud of, Tucson, I'd still suggest going north, as the northern half the state as it's generally more scenic.

Tucson, while it's only two hours or so to the south, with the exception of Picacho Peak, it is widely acknowledged as "The most boring drive ever". Tucson has some national parks and is a UNESCO food site. No joke. If you did go, though, depending upon when, you could stay downtown at the Hotel Congress, where Dillinger was apprehended, and if on the weekend you could get up bright and early, stroll about 100m down the street to the Playground Bar & Grill to catch Prem action and drink some craft beer. They usually open at 7 or 8am for about 7-10 footie fans. One kopite (actually from Liverpool) a couple blues, and assorted others. And I could provide some great food recs.

IF you did Tucson, you could also augment with a day trip or stop over in Bisbee. It's maybe two hours from Tucson, is a really cool arty-hippie former mining boom town (bring cash, though, most places there don't use debit cards. or didn't 5 years ago. no joke.), and would pass through Tombstone on the way.

Or, if you like wine, further south of Tucson, but not as far away as Tombstone/Bisbee is Sonoita and Elgin, where there are some surprisingly decent vineyards. But basically doing a bar crawl with wine glasses on motorcycles might not be the best call.

I'd steer clear of Nogales, no idea what the border crossing situation would be like now, particularly being a foreigner to both countries, and avoid any of our national parks along the border as well. Not safe. Not a joke.

East

Showlow is pretty cool to the east, national parks, trees, and more than a few degrees cooler than Phoenix.

Good advice here. I visited a lot of these places, particularly loved Tucson and Bisbee. Grand Canyon can't be beat, even though it is popular. I hiked down it, spent the night, then hiked back up. Simply beautiful.

Sedona is popular, and increasingly and annoyingly so. Perhaps just head further north to Flagstaff. Or visit Jerome, which is near Sedona but less touristy-annoying-trafficy.
 
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For those who don't like flying I just had 9 hours of lumpy weather from Heathrow to Johannesburg last night where only the final 2 hours were smooth. Most notably, we took a dogs-leg detour around the Democratic Republic of Congo due to fairly heavy turbulence which I guess is related to crossing the Equator?
On the plus side what is generally just over twelve hours flight actually only took eleven hours and the normally rammed customs at O.R Tambo was a dream...shame about the heavy rain and thunder/lightening storm in the afternoon.

Done that flight many times. I hate crossing over the equator. Tons of turbulence due to the ITCZ. If you arrive at OR Tambo on Thursdays, in the late afternoons all the duty-free shops have stands handing out liquor samples (at least this used to be the case). It's insane, since there are so many samples to part-take in: vodka, port wine, scotch, rum, etc. You can get a great buzz/drunk on depending on how motivated you are.
 
Good advice here. I visited a lot of these places, particularly loved Tucson and Bisbee. Grand Canyon can't be beat, even though it is popular. I hiked down it, spent the night, then hiked back up. Simply beautiful.

Sedona is popular, and increasingly and annoyingly so. Perhaps just head further north to Flagstaff. Or visit Jerome, which is near Sedona but less touristy-annoying-trafficy.

Thanks for affirmation, good to see someone who visited has opinions along the same lines...

Jerome? Did an afternoon trip there from Prescott. I would die if I lived there. Those switchback sidewalks along that steep, steep hill... would be walking home from the pub/saloon after a few, would trip over something stupid and tumble ass over tea kettle over the railing and fall 20 feet down to the switchback sidewalk below.
 

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