The Unholy Trinity

[ToffeeTim]

I agree with the sentiment. Our midfielders are garbage. Schneiderlin and especially Gueye are woeful. Gueye is grossly overrated by some and it baffles me given her couldn't find a team mate if the other team were on strike.

But then you mentioned Tom Cleverley.

Therefore it's BED for you.

 

[Shipped]

Game wasn't lost in midfield.
3 you mention were Ok today.

 

[Timak]

A modern midfield is typically made in two different ways:

Option 1 is the way Barcelona and Portugal play.

A pivot who takes the ball of the centre backs, sniffs out danger and feeds the ball forwards to the advanced midfielders. Best in the world at this is Busquets. Barry did this for us.

Then two midfielders who operate as all rounders - think Xavi/Modric/Iniesta/Moutinho/KDB/Silva

They must be able to keep possession, both to get the ball into their front players but also to control the game.

Other option is to have a double pivot, with a sitter, a box to box and an attacking midfielder. Think France with Kante and Matuidi giving Pogba more freedom, or even us with Barry, McCarthy and Barkley.

At the moment we don't have anything but the box to box - Davies, McCarthy, Gana, Scneiderlin do that adequately but only Gomes can do the all rounder role.

In Everton terms we need our Barry, Arteta and Barkley to get that combination of passing and the ability to break lines with forward passes and dribbles.

 

[dholliday]

Unfair thread.

Gana's great. He's been our MotM an outrageous amount of times since he first arrived.

Snides I grant you...Sig has shown flashes of quality (not least that bullet header today).

 

[sageyefc]

Need someone that can get their foot on a ball, got no one that can dictate the pace of a game

 

[COYBL25]

Poor post and shameless attempt at getting the manager off the hook

There`s only one answer Kev, pressing that big red button and bringing back Allardyce

 

[Eggs]

Midfield has been a problem for a while, as has defence. Only natural when people go looking for answers after a bad game.

I just think it will take the team and the manager time to figure everything out and I believe we’ll be much stronger and better with a full compliment to choose from.

...you said, ’midfield has been a problem for a while, as has defence’ but the forward line has hardly been great either.

I know it’s understandable that there’s a knee jerk reaction after a defeat, but it would be more analytical if these strategic problems were highlighted after a win. I agree with you last paragraph.

 

[Saint Domingo]

The unholy trinity have started together 17 times. Of those 17 we’ve won 4, drawn 6 and lost 7.

The 4 wins: Bournemouth (h) (both goals scored after Davies replaced MS to rescue a losing position), Newcastle (a), Swansea (h) (all goals scored after Davies replaced MS early in the game), Southampton (h) (MS went off early with the score at 1-0 to be replaced by Davies)

That means we have won 1 game out of 17 when all three have started together and played 90 minutes (If memory serves me correctly we had 2 shots on target that night both from the same move that led to Rooneys goal)

So when people say ‘they’re not that bad’ etc. They’re wrong. The stats show it. They are woeful.

 

[COYBL25]

Unfair thread.

Gana's great. He's been our MotM an outrageous amount of times since he first arrived.

Snides I grant you...Sig has shown flashes of quality (not least that bullet header today).

It`s based on the players that get the most stick on here

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Not remember the 90's too well then?

 

[wba83]

Game wasn't lost in midfield.
3 you mention were Ok today.

disagree mate the 3 being ok is not good enough for Everton we demand more than ok .that kid in midfield for them rice is no better than our players but he was hungrier and basically just harassed them .we never seem to win the second ball it drives me nuts .so being ok is a load of Barry White TBH you think reid and bracewell we're happy with ok not a chance because they were winners mate if only these crabs had a bit of the same about them

 

[Saint Domingo]

Not remember the 90's too well then?

The clue was in the line ‘since the turn of the century’.

 

[DanEFC92]

He should throw his bed in the bin and then go to bed

I am aghast at that shout I have to say

 

[Ron Burgundy]

The clue was in the line ‘since the turn of the century’.

My apologies fella. In that case, you're pretty much spot on.

 

[DanEFC92]

Game wasn't lost in midfield.
3 you mention were Ok today.

Think it contributed massively like.

They were poo.