The US is spreading ebola and is using Africa as a bio-weapon testing ground

[Ashtonian]

Less than a hundred years ago, Flu killed in the region of 50 to 100 million in one year in 1918.

Even today, over 12000 people die of Flu in the uk per year on average.

So you say the flu is along the same lines as cancer then?

 

[SerenityNigh]

So you say the flu is along the same lines as cancer then?

What does this even mean?

 

[Ashtonian]

Small Pox is the most deadly disease in history.

Followed by influenza.

Followed by the black death (plague).


Ebola is a strange one. Its got such a high mortality rate it usually kills people before infecting others in sufficient numbers.

The problem with this in Africa is - 1. people washing the bodies (cultural) in Africa and 2. people can't read and 3. roads and aircraft meaning people can travel further when infected.

So lack of education has caused many of the problems.


When aid workers went to a village in Guinea, I think there was a case of the aid workers being murdered and then dumped in a sewage tank. Due to cultural taboo and stupidity. Rumours like you're spreading that the aid workers were spreading the virus.


Total stupidity on your part.

Seriousness isnt on the basis of how many it has killed.

I mean ffs you cant cure cancer buy you can small pox. Also these diseases killed back when medical science didnt have a clue about anything and the world most people lived in was breeding grounds for it to grow.

none of that applies today, medical science knows about these things and the world is not a breeding ground for the plague or anyhting like that.

AND FINALLY, people did get cancer in the past, they just didn't know what it was. Anyone can get it so it is naive to think only the old were susceptible to it over the last 2 centuries. Clearly people didnt know every illness going back then.

 

[Ashtonian]

What does this even mean?

Well apparently someone getting the flu to people here is the same as someone getting (what i think) is a much more serious and possibly uncurable disease.

but i am mad for thinking that because 150 years ago flu was deadly in the squalors

 

[Blue 1]

Because it was vaccinated. It is a completely different type of virus to HIV. YOu can live with HIV with drugs but you either have or havent got the whooping cough!

You keep ignoring polio. Survivors need loads of lucrative aftercare. Ventilators, analgesics, physio, braces, orthopaedic shoes etc

Why did they vaccinate?

 

[Moomin]

Well apparently someone getting the flu to people here is the same as someone getting (what i think) is a much more serious and possibly uncurable disease.

but i am mad for thinking that because 150 years ago flu was deadly in the squalors

No-one has said that. They are both serious illneses due to the amount of people who die per year.

 

[bizzaro]

So you say the flu is along the same lines as cancer then?

In mortality terms yes it is.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm

For USA 2011

• Cancer: 576,691
• Influenza and Pneumonia: 53,826

However, that is only one year. Influenza strains mutate yearly.

That was "seasonal influenza".



Certain strains can cause pandemic level infections.

in 1918 Spanish flu caused between 50 million to 100 million deaths in ONE year between 1918/1919.

6% of world population of the time.

Influenza is certainly in the same league. Its just not so every year but on a every couple of decades or so.

When it does strike it does so massively.

 

[Ashtonian]

No-one has said that. They are both serious illneses due to the amount of people who die per year.

Only the old and feeble pose a serious risk of flu, if it isnt a rare and deadly strain that can exist. But overall the main strain of infleunza is not harmful unless the host cannot fight back.

Compared to virus that can take effect anyone and be devastating to them.

 

[bizzaro]

Only the old and feeble pose a serious risk of flu, if it isnt a rare and deadly strain that can exist. But overall the main strain of infleunza is not harmful unless the host cannot fight back.

Compared to virus that can take effect anyone and be devastating to them.

LIES.

The 1918 strain called predominantly the very young. People in their 20's and the very old (>80 years of age).

With a peak of people in their 20's.

 

[Moomin]

Only the old and feeble pose a serious risk of flu, if it isnt a rare and deadly strain that can exist. But overall the main strain of infleunza is not harmful unless the host cannot fight back.

Compared to virus that can take effect anyone and be devastating to them.

ROFL, expert in Flu and influenza now.

 

[bizzaro]

Seriousness isnt on the basis of how many it has killed.

I mean ffs you cant cure cancer buy you can small pox. Also these diseases killed back when medical science didnt have a clue about anything and the world most people lived in was breeding grounds for it to grow.

none of that applies today, medical science knows about these things and the world is not a breeding ground for the plague or anyhting like that.

AND FINALLY, people did get cancer in the past, they just didn't know what it was. Anyone can get it so it is naive to think only the old were susceptible to it over the last 2 centuries. Clearly people didnt know every illness going back then.

You can cure cancer. It just depends on the strain and how quickly it is detected. If it metastasises it is more difficult to treat. Cancer treatment is about probabilities anyway. Including its development. You can minimise the risks (probability) of cancer. But never entirely.


You are absolutely clueless about everything.

Totally.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Only the old and feeble pose a serious risk of flu, if it isnt a rare and deadly strain that can exist. But overall the main strain of infleunza is not harmful unless the host cannot fight back.

Compared to virus that can take effect anyone and be devastating to them.

Flu kills those with weaker/stressed immune systems, and is highly transmissible. An influenza outbreak is a huge public health risk, mitigated only by improvements in standard of living/health care and wide access to vaccines.

 

[bizzaro]

Flu kills those with weaker/stressed immune systems, and is highly transmissible. An influenza outbreak is a huge public health risk, mitigated only by improvements in standard of living/health care and wide access to vaccines.

Even that might not be sufficient. The highest morality rate in 1918 in the UK was in north wales. 30 miles away from Liverpool.

It mainly killed fit and healthy farm workers of the time in their 20's.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Even that might not be sufficient. The highest morality rate in 1918 in the UK was in north wales. 30 miles away from Liverpool.

It mainly killed fit and healthy farm workers of the time in their 20's.

Fair point--the flu is most deadly in the young and old, but certainly can kill anyone. Despite using Wales to support your point (dubious data), I think we would agree that the danger of flu is reduced by the benefits of modern health care and access to vaccines.

 

[Moomin]

Even that might not be sufficient. The highest morality rate in 1918 in the UK was in north wales. 30 miles away from Liverpool.

It mainly killed fit and healthy farm workers of the time in their 20's.

Mutton flu that strain.