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The US is spreading ebola and is using Africa as a bio-weapon testing ground

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So no actual discussion back about it? lol

Think about it, the world isnt all fairy tales and rainbows. Im pretty sure a quick google would get a hell of a lot of stuff that agrees with me.

We have a lot of " Not for profit " charities who do research and development of treatment. Cancer research UK etc etc etc
 
So no actual discussion back about it? lol

Think about it, the world isnt all fairy tales and rainbows. Im pretty sure a quick google would get a hell of a lot of stuff that agrees with me.

You can find anything on the Internet to back an argument. Doesn't mean it's right.
 
Then why do they bother to create vaccines? Surely it would be more lucrative to have sick people buying cures all the time?

Not for cancer and the like. You get sick you buy lemsips. you get a cough you buy cough medicine.

Its not like you get serious illnesses on a yearly basis. so once you cured yourself you may never need to buy the same stuff again. That is where it is focused. they also dont want a world wide pandemic spreading that they cant control so vaacine the less serious stuff.

I am NOT saying there is a cure for cancer before anyone thinks i am. what i am saying is perhaps there is much less emphasis on looking for one than it appears.

But you will just diasgree anyway :)
 
the reason why there is no cure for cancer is money. Pharmaceutical companies would lose billions if people stopped buying their drugs to help keep illnesses like that at pay. Instead of an instant cure they want you to keep having to come back to them and buy their products so there never will be a cure for serious illness. And as those companies have ties to governments world wide, there is no pressure for them to come up with results and they continue growing and growing making more and more money.

Tell me at what point i am wrong there?

I'll give it a go....

Although I agree we rely too much on for profit business to do medical research, a lot of the money they spend is in the form of grants. They give this money generally to University researchers. For many/most of these grants the companies have little to no input in the actual research. University researchers do have to produce results or they are soon without a position at the University.

My guess is now you will have issues with the integrity of University researchers.
 

Not for cancer and the like. You get sick you buy lemsips. you get a cough you buy cough medicine.

Its not like you get serious illnesses on a yearly basis. so once you cured yourself you may never need to buy the same stuff again. That is where it is focused. they also dont want a world wide pandemic spreading that they cant control so vaacine the less serious stuff.

I am NOT saying there is a cure for cancer before anyone thinks i am. what i am saying is perhaps there is much less emphasis on looking for one than it appears.

But you will just diasgree anyway :)

You need to be very careful mate as you're dealing with things you don't fully understand.

My dad recovered from cancer due to brilliant doctors and a hell of a lot of research going into getting him and many others better.

According to you he shouldn't have got better just so people kept putting money into it.
 
You need to be very careful mate as you're dealing with things you don't fully understand.

My dad recovered from cancer due to brilliant doctors and a hell of a lot of research going into getting him and many others better.

According to you he shouldn't have got better just so people kept putting money into it.

Not said that either. Of course people get better otherwise the world would be a very grim place to be in.

but tell me ijjy how is me saying that the companies tasked with finding these serious cures arent arsed as long as they can keep making money got ANYTHING to do with anyone close to you? not in any way is what im saying targeted to anyone or anything and i have even been careful to watch the c word and talk about a broader area.

But ok, is there a general cure yes there is. Is there an instant cure for these illness? Not in our life time i can gaurantee that.
 

the reason why there is no cure for cancer is money. Pharmaceutical companies would lose billions if people stopped buying their drugs to help keep illnesses like that at pay. Instead of an instant cure they want you to keep having to come back to them and buy their products so there never will be a cure for serious illness. And as those companies have ties to governments world wide, there is no pressure for them to come up with results and they continue growing and growing making more and more money.

Part of your answer is here:

Statistically, we're living the longest lives in the history of mankind and most of the big killers, heart disease, cancer etc. become significantly more probably the older you get. If you're 90, you're far more likely to develop cancer, dementia or heart disease than someone who is 40. I How many has ebola killed this year? A couple of thousand? It's not trivial by any means, but if it was a method of population control, it really needs to be taking bigger bites of the apple than that. Your biggest gripe seems to be that doctors aren't curing everything left,right and centre. But sure, how complex could the human body really be?

The "reason" there is "no cure for cancer" is largely because it's new. 100 years ago there was little concern for cancer is because few people were living long enough to be diagnosed, or more specifically they were dying of other diseases at younger ages. Some may have had cancer but never knew, or it may have been misdiagnosed. Life expectancy 100 years ago in England was barely 40!

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An unintentional consequence of the success of modern medicine is the "emergence" of new diseases; these disease almost certainly existed but had no opportunity to present. As "modern medicine" found treatment for simple infections (penicillin) and vaccines for deadly infectious diseases (polio; plague), "new" illnesses seemed to spring up. When the average man died at 45, he had no concern for heart health, but now that the average man is dying at 75, his nemesis is not infectious disease but these cardiovascular diseases, etc. Cancer is no different.

Now, should you be skeptical that drug companies have as their primary concern making money from you? Maybe so; but to then conclude that they are perpetuating disease for profit is... well, little better than this:

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Not said that either. Of course people get better otherwise the world would be a very grim place to be in.

but tell me ijjy how is me saying that the companies tasked with finding these serious cures arent arsed as long as they can keep making money got ANYTHING to do with anyone close to you? not in any way is what im saying targeted to anyone or anything and i have even been careful to watch the c word and talk about a broader area.

But ok, is there a general cure yes there is. Is there an instant cure for these illness? Not in our life time i can gaurantee that.

You absolutely cannot guarantee that.
 
Wait a minute, he will come back and say they were average in a minute.

Whooping cough isnt the same as being HIV or that bracket of illness. It is serious to your health but it isnt the same. And yes they would look to eradicate something easily transmitted through the air or whatever depending on the illness as it is not the same as something that you cant help.
 
Whooping cough isnt the same as being HIV or that bracket of illness. It is serious to your health but it isnt the same. And yes they would look to eradicate something easily transmitted through the air or whatever depending on the illness as it is not the same as something that you cant help.

@Blue 1

Hahaha not even a minute.

What next " Black Death was not all that really? "
 

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