The Sorting Hat
Player Valuation: £750k
Ole is free now, at least he kept Watford down to four goals.
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Ole is free now, at least he kept Watford down to four goals.
WilliamPerry
Player Valuation: £20m
moshiri appointed him knowing full well that our support are that bitter we would turn on Benitez before we turned on the real problem, @barneygumble has nailed the issues earlier in this thread.
So if we keep losing games we stick with him. For how long. We have won 1 in 9. 1 pt in 6..
You can't keep losing games and keep your job .
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
Houdini was an escapologist...
Actually we could use him this season.
We need structure, he needs to create this structure, the reason we are all over the place as fans etc is that everybody thinks someone else is to blame. Why have a DOF if he then brings in new managers every 18 months and lets them all buy their own players for example.
WilliamPerry
Player Valuation: £20m
The DOF doesnt hire managers at this club. That is all moshiri
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
I don't think @barneygumble is the problem...
Yeah deffo, he is an easy scapegoat.
It's not bitterness though. It's just how football is. Appointing a rival clubs manager very rarely works. It was just throwing loads more fuel on a long burning fire.
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
Exactly. He should be, otherwise what is the point?
everton1953
Player Valuation: £40m
Just switched on again, somebody wanted Lampard all along. Priceless .
Priceless why?
I take it your one of these that wants the manager out but won’t say who they actually want. Moron
WilliamPerry
Player Valuation: £20m
There isn’t a point to brands . Why do you think they give him a seat on the board ? this is moshiri‘s train set now . Brands is a cushion for moshiri
Ghost Rider
Player Valuation: £8m
The problem with the way football is now is that many people want instant gratification for their opinion, one way or another. In our case people want us to sack benitez iregardless to the situation at the club.
You could argue it is an extremely toxic attitude to have , to dismiss the quality of the squad or ignore it entirely for that instant gratification.
When you look back, Silva's first season in charge, we had at least a 2 month period , could have been 3 months even that we didn't win. This is exactly what he did at Watford the year before which led to him being sacked. People generally wanted to give him more time , and he was then sacked 10 months later.
Martinez third season in charge. We went from September to February with the only wins in the league against the bottom 3 , one of which (Newcastle) only just stayed up. So it was 6 wins in 5 months before we beat one of them again and then beat someone else. Martinez was then not long sacked.
The point I'm trying to make here is that these managers also got time before they were sacked but they had something that benitez hasn't had, money. Silva had 2 summers before he wasn't good enough. Martinez had a further 3 months before he was sacked. All these managers had money to spend before they were deemed not good enough. Martinez even brought in niasse on his way out for what was a big amount for us at the time.
So if we sack managers after giving them time and money , how on earth can we sack a manager who hasn't had either? Even better , is tasked with achieving better with a team that is made up of past failures that have resulted in sackings by the ones who signed them?
If we sacked benitez now , without time or money, this club has hit rock bottom as far as I am concerned. There is no coming back from that , to not give a manager time or money to even stamp his own image onto the pitch. It's laying the blame on the manager officially and not the years of mismanagement elsewhere. It won't matter anymore the quality of the player we sign , no matter what the blame will only be left with the manager.
So expect many more iwobis at the club because a manager without time or money being blamed justifies the 28 million spent on simply being managed poorly.
You could argue it is an extremely toxic attitude to have , to dismiss the quality of the squad or ignore it entirely for that instant gratification.
When you look back, Silva's first season in charge, we had at least a 2 month period , could have been 3 months even that we didn't win. This is exactly what he did at Watford the year before which led to him being sacked. People generally wanted to give him more time , and he was then sacked 10 months later.
Martinez third season in charge. We went from September to February with the only wins in the league against the bottom 3 , one of which (Newcastle) only just stayed up. So it was 6 wins in 5 months before we beat one of them again and then beat someone else. Martinez was then not long sacked.
The point I'm trying to make here is that these managers also got time before they were sacked but they had something that benitez hasn't had, money. Silva had 2 summers before he wasn't good enough. Martinez had a further 3 months before he was sacked. All these managers had money to spend before they were deemed not good enough. Martinez even brought in niasse on his way out for what was a big amount for us at the time.
So if we sack managers after giving them time and money , how on earth can we sack a manager who hasn't had either? Even better , is tasked with achieving better with a team that is made up of past failures that have resulted in sackings by the ones who signed them?
If we sacked benitez now , without time or money, this club has hit rock bottom as far as I am concerned. There is no coming back from that , to not give a manager time or money to even stamp his own image onto the pitch. It's laying the blame on the manager officially and not the years of mismanagement elsewhere. It won't matter anymore the quality of the player we sign , no matter what the blame will only be left with the manager.
So expect many more iwobis at the club because a manager without time or money being blamed justifies the 28 million spent on simply being managed poorly.
Let’s wait till he’s got the first 11 back before calling for his head
If he can’t do anything then, then fair enough I think it’s fair to question him
Right now there isn’t a manager we could attract who I think would do better with the Z list players Benitez currently has
When he has DCL and Doucoure back I expect our form to improve
We’ll beat the crap and finish mid table
We need to loan some players in January so we have some actual squad depth
If he can’t do anything then, then fair enough I think it’s fair to question him
Right now there isn’t a manager we could attract who I think would do better with the Z list players Benitez currently has
When he has DCL and Doucoure back I expect our form to improve
We’ll beat the crap and finish mid table
We need to loan some players in January so we have some actual squad depth
everton1953
Player Valuation: £40m
Not a moron, I want Bielsa who is on the edge of being the next one sacked. He will terrorise our crap players. So there Moron.
Sometimes it just doesn't work out , silver had bad Injury "luck" couldn't find answers and that story didn't save him.
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