Today’s Football 2019/20 Season

[Nymzee]

Really like that Douglas Luiz

 

[TheBigIguana]

Would you consider Villa’s disallowed goal to be a clear & obvious error: yes or no?

No. But that also doesn't apply to offside so I'm not really sure it matters.

The pretense of absolute accuracy is annoying I will admit.

 

[ToffeeTim]

It's funny how everyone is blaming VAR when the real problem here is they don't like the rules

Erm no.... definitely not.

The VAR guidelines from FIFA say only clear and obvious errors should be overturned. The premier league have decided they know best and gone down a different route which has turned into a shambles.

 

[Nymzee]

No. But that also doesn't apply to offside so I'm not really sure it matters.

So if it’s not a clear & obvious error why is VAR getting involved

 

[PDAWG]

Good to see Burnley getting smashed

 

[ToffeeTim]

Another reminder that England has the most inept officials in top tier football.

 

[TheBigIguana]

So if it’s not a clear & obvious error why is VAR getting involved

Because that standard isn't applied to offside because it isn't a judgement call. A goal is either a goal or it isn't. Offside either is or isn't. The only issue with VAR is it probably isn't as accurate as they're acting like it is. But if you're upset with close calls being offside that's more a problem with the rule than anything.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Because that standard isn't applied to offside because it isn't a judgement call. A goal is either a goal or it isn't. Offside either is or isn't. The only issue with VAR is it probably isn't as accurate as they're acting like it is. But if you're upset with close calls being offside that's more a problem with the rule than anything.

Mate...

The spokesman for IFAB who make the rules literally said the other day VAR shouldn't be used for marginal offside calls. And that the PL had got it wrong.

 

[Nymzee]

Because that standard isn't applied to offside because it isn't a judgement call. A goal is either a goal or it isn't. Offside either is or isn't. The only issue with VAR is it probably isn't as accurate as they're acting like it is. But if you're upset with close calls being offside that's more a problem with the rule than anything.

But it isn’t a clear & obvious error whether or not offside is a clear rule (which is isn’t anyway).

 

[TheBigIguana]

But it isn’t a clear & obvious error whether or not offside is a clear rule (which is isn’t anyway).

If every call was subject to clear and obvious the RS win the league last year. Things that aren't based on judgment are (rightly) not included in that standard.

 

[Nymzee]

If every call was subject to clear and obvious the RS win the league last year. Things that aren't based on judgment are (rightly) not included in that standard.

Well, in reality, all facets of officiating are a judgement case otherwise we'd never have pundits discussing refereeing decisions, would we?

If VAR is being use for millimetre offsides we may as well let it dictate all throw ins, all corners etc. too since they shouldn't be based on judgement either.

 

[Lelouch]

Genuinely hope Burnley get relegated, What an utter disgrace to Football they are.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Well, in reality, all facets of officiating are a judgement case otherwise we'd never have pundits discussing refereeing decisions, would we?

If VAR is being use for millimetre offsides we may as well let it dictate all throw ins, all corners etc. too since they shouldn't be based on judgement either.

Technically though offside is not subject to judgment. When the ball is played a line is set and anyone over that line is off. The linesman is asked to judge that but he is either right or wrong. It isn't like a foul where different people can think different things without it being black and white.

I don't like how it is being used currently but I watch enough sports with replay that I'm not going to sit here and say everything is ruined because we are tightly enforcing offside. Let's maybe tweak things instead of totally scrapping it.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Nothing will be good enough other than a complete scrapping of VAR.

Tweaks are not going to turn a shambolic system into a good system.

 

[PhilM]

If you have to use software and two magic lines to determine an offside the words CLEAR AND OBVIOUS go right out of the window.

It should take twenty seconds (at most) to decide if it’s a clear and obvious error and not the minute analysis that’s been set, which is a horrible precedent.