Today’s Football 2020/21 Season

[Tin-Tin]

It's an interesting one this. As far as I see it - it was the bookies who kicked off because they lost a decent amount of money on it.
If the bookies keep coming up with absolute nonsense bets to encourage you to bet and they do 24/7 then they shoudn't bleat
when they take a loss. As far as I know he didn't place any bets himself, but his family & friends did. Why is that so bad?
It's a bet that in no way can influence the result or outcome of a game or the performance of any player or official. Where's
the big deal? It was a bet put up by the bookies and people with inside information took advantage of it. Whilst it could
possibly be classed as immoral or unethical, in my view it's certainly not illegal. The bookies took a haircut - so what?
It doesn't deserve a 10 game ban me thinks.

There shouldnt be a market on transfers anyway. Whether the player told his mate or family, or they told their friends etc it shouldnt matter, thats their personal business.

 

[TheBigIguana]

80 minute long games, the watch only ticks when the ball is in play.

You don't even need to get that wild with it. Leave it at 90 minutes and let it run through everything but injuries, subs and VAR. And let the ref stop it when teams try and time waste over free kicks and goalkicks.

I just think switching the length of games will get a lot of people to challenge the idea who would otherwise be onboard.

 

[navidson]

"When Stoke hosted Watford in a stultifying 0-0 draw at the end of January (2017), the ball was in play for a meagre 42 minutes and eight seconds"

Remarkable

 

[H.H.]

You don't even need to get that wild with it. Leave it at 90 minutes and let it run through everything but injuries, subs and VAR. And let the ref stop it when teams try and time waste over free kicks and goalkicks.

I just think switching the length of games will get a lot of people to challenge the idea who would otherwise be onboard.

Refs have for years already proven that they don't fully take into consideration time wasting at throw ins, free kicks, goal kicks and fake injuries etc so it needs to be taken out of their hands.
The clock stops on the big screens/corner of the TVs screen, our money then gets us to watch a proper football game and everyone can then see there is no bias.

 

[TheBigIguana]

"When Stoke hosted Watford in a stultifying 0-0 draw at the end of January (2017), the ball was in play for a meagre 42 minutes and eight seconds"

Remarkable

This is Burnley's whole strategy aside from maybe 6 home games a year. They will as long as the game is level or they're ahead take 45 seconds plus over every freekick, goalkick, corner, throw or whatever else.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Refs have for years already proven that they don't fully take into consideration time wasting at throw ins, free kicks, goal kicks and fake injuries etc so it needs to be taken out of their hands.
The clock stops on the big screens/corner of the TVs screen, everyone can then see there is no bias.

That fundamentally changes the sport more than I'd be fully comfortable with. And as someone who has no problem with anything VAR does with offside for example I feel like me being put off is going to make it impossible to get past most of the football world.

 

[H.H.]

That fundamentally changes the sport more than I'd be fully comfortable with. And as someone who has no problem with anything VAR does with offside for example I feel like me being put off is going to make it impossible to get past most of the football world.

Well me paying my hard earned to watch being cheated from watching a proper game of football makes me very uncomfortable/angry.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Well me paying my hard earned to watch being cheated from watching a proper game of football makes me very uncomfortable/angry.

I don't know what you mean.

 

[H.H.]

I don't know what you mean.

You wrote that you wouldn't be fully comfortable with the game being changed to 80 minutes long (of actual football being played.)
I would be happy with the rules being changed to watch 80 minutes of actual football than the roughly 60 minutes and all the cheating that my money currently allows me to see.

Edit; Just checked. The average amount of time the ball is in play is 55 minutes, 9 seconds.

 

[TheBigIguana]

You wrote that you wouldn't be fully comfortable with the game being changed to 80 minutes long (of actual football being played.)
I would be happy with the rules being changed to watch 80 minutes of actual football than the roughly 60 minutes and all the cheating that my money currently allows me to see.

Edit; Just checked. The average amount of time the ball is in play is 55 minutes, 9 seconds.

I get what you're saying but I also think that is a bigger change, having the clock stop every time it goes out for a throw etc., than you're probably realizing. I mean the game on average to get to 80 minutes would be 25 additional minutes of real time. So you're talking about something that is rarely longer than 2 hours now taking closer to two and a half.

It also changes the strategy a lot I think. That's a lot more time to get through stamina wise.

I just think a more acceptable proposal that will also stop time wasting is a limited clock stoppage system. It is what rugby do and it works well. Stop it for everything is what NBA does and it can make things very stop start.

 

[H.H.]

I get what you're saying but I also think that is a bigger change, having the clock stop every time it goes out for a throw etc., than you're probably realizing. I mean the game on average to get to 80 minutes would be 25 additional minutes of real time. So you're talking about something that is rarely longer than 2 hours now taking closer to two and a half.

It also changes the strategy a lot I think. That's a lot more time to get through stamina wise.

I just think a more acceptable proposal that will also stop time wasting is a limited clock stoppage system. It is what rugby do and it works well. Stop it for everything is what NBA does and it can make things very stop start.

But if there is a stopwatch, the "Art" of time wasting will become a waste of time so it will stop happening and the games wouldn't last as long as you suggest.

 

[TheBigIguana]

But if there is a stopwatch the time wasting will become a waste of time and will stop happening, so the games wouldn't last as long as you suggest.

Not all of it. The ball going out for a throw is going to take some time to get back in. It still adds up.

 

[H.H.]

Not all of it. The ball going out for a throw is going to take some time to get back in. It still adds up.

But the time wasting of taking goal kicks/throw ins and the ever more cheating by players of making out they are injured will stop.

 

[TheBigIguana]

But the time wasting of taking goal kicks/throw ins and the ever more cheating by players of making out they are injured will stop.

The other problem is a stop the clock constantly system definitely leads to midgame commercial breaks.

 

[H.H.]

The other problem is a stop the clock constantly system definitely leads to midgame commercial breaks.

1) You've now changed your argument.
2) No it doesn't.