Today’s Football 2020/21 Season

[visitingholte]

All I want is a game that doesn't hinge on a subjective ref/var call

 

[Old Blue 2]

No, rodri’s position at the time of the tackle is irrelevant. What you’re talking about would apply to rugby but not football.

No it isn't. A player reaches a point of being onside. He is then 'valid' (for want of a better word) to join play again if the ball is subsequently played.

Having played rugby for a number of years, it is slightly different, in that an offside player usually stands still with his hands on his head, indicating to the referee that he has no intention of joining in with the play. Once the 'onside line' has reached him, he is free to play again.

 

[McBain]

Maradona's goal output was nowhere near Messi & Ronaldo.

Pele's goal output has now been eclipsed even with all his domestic goals happening in Brazil and the US...

Well yeah but they played in a different eras. It was said ‘We’ll never see the like of them again’, but we did. And will again.

 

[Tin-Tin]

Gary Lineker covers it here, rule states hes onside

‘It’s a rubbish law’ - Why was Man City's controversial goal allowed to stand?

Match of the Day's Gary Lineker, Martin Keown and Micah Richards discuss Rodri's controversial assist that led to Bernardo Silva's opening goal against Aston Villa.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Nymzee]

Well yeah but they played in a different eras. It was said ‘We’ll never see the like of them again’, but we did. And will again.

I never said we'd not see players as good as them.

I said we wouldn't see someone beat their records.

 

[Lanolin]

No it isn't. A player reaches a point of being onside. He is then 'valid' (for want of a better word) to join play again if the ball is subsequently played.

Having played rugby for a number of years, it is slightly different, in that an offside player usually stands still with his hands on his head, indicating to the referee that he has no intention of joining in with the play. Once the 'onside line' has reached him, he is free to play again.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that the fact rodri is now in an ‘onside’ position is completely irrelevant. Either the phase resets when the defender touches it, in which case his position is irrelevant because he can’t be offside when the ball has been played by the defender, or it doesn’t, in which case his position from the original pass is what’s important not his current position. You’re conflating two totally different things. You’ve come to the right conclusion, but your working out is wrong.

 

[McBain]

I never said we'd not see players as good as them.

I said we wouldn't see someone beat their records.

Same thing. Messi would score nowhere near as many goals if he was hacked at like Maradona was.

 

[zukai12_]

Real Madrid may go for River Plate manager Gallardo (linked to us for a bit last year)

By all accounts a very good manager, especially in Continental competitions, but coming straight from South America players may not respect him

Still i think it would be a good choice, south american teams are always loosing best players to europe in the middle of the season, so to stay consistent for years is very impressive

 

[Nymzee]

Same thing. Messi would score nowhere near as many goals if he was hacked at like Maradona was.

You can never know that so moot point.

You could conversely say Pele and Maradona wouldn't do as well in the modern game.

 

[DanB90]

All I want is a game that doesn't hinge on a subjective ref/var call

It’s not subjective. The defender plays the ball, the attacker is onside. It doesn’t matter if the attacker is standing on the goal line beyond the keeper. Once the defender plays the ball, the attacker is no longer offside.

I’m honestly failing to see where the confusion is coming from.

 

[McBain]

You can never know that so moot point.

You could conversely say Pele and Maradona wouldn't do as well in the modern game.

I dont think you can because they would have been brought up with far superior training and all the protections of modern rules and technology.

I know better players will come along because thr game is always advancing. Its never the same game even a decade later imo.

 

[Nymzee]

I dont think you can because they would have been brought up with far superior training and all the protections of modern rules and technology.

I know better players will come along because thr game is always advancing. Its never the same game even a decade later imo.

Again, never said better players wouldn't come along.

I said I don't think a player will score more than 760 career goals which is a fair assumption considering how unreal that is in the modern game.

Lewandowski, absolute goal machine his whole career is in the 500's and is 33 this year.

 

[Toast]

Lewandowski, absolute goal machine his whole career is in the 500's and is 33 this year.

He’s no Dixie Dean.

 

[McBain]

Again, never said better players wouldn't come along.

I said I don't think a player will score more than 760 career goals which is a fair assumption considering how unreal that is in the modern game.

Lewandowski, absolute goal machine his whole career is in the 500's and is 33 this year.

Pele scored 1000 goals so 760 aint even close.

 

[Nymzee]

Pele scored 1000 goals so 760 aint even close.

That figure includes domestic & international friendlies. His official figure is lower than Ronaldo's.

The only player claiming to have beaten that is the Czech striker that scored most of his goals in the Czech league whilst all the decent players and fit men were in WW2.

At least spend a few minutes checking facts before typing.