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Today’s Football 2021/22 Season

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PhilM said:
Okay. But it's still open play, right? As he was not the sole player who was kicking the dead ball and received the ball from another?
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For me no. The far more useful way to define set plays includes the moments right after the dead ball when the defending team is still set up like they're defending the set play. There was a goal we scored at some point where Sigurdsson put in a crap corner and had it come back to him which we then scored from on the second cross. That's a set play goal.
 
TheBigIguana said:
For me no. The far more useful way to define set plays includes the moments right after the dead ball when the defending team is still set up like they're defending the set play. There was a goal we scored at some point where Sigurdsson put in a crap corner and had it come back to him which we then scored from on the second cross. That's a set play goal.
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Football is a simple game mate.

You complicate it too much sometimes.
 
TheBigIguana said:
For me no. The far more useful way to define set plays includes the moments right after the dead ball when the defending team is still set up like they're defending the set play. There was a goal we scored at some point where Sigurdsson put in a crap corner and had it come back to him which we then scored from on the second cross. That's a set play goal.
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To the latter, no it's not. To the former, the consensus and rules say otherwise.
 

TheBigIguana said:
The consensus? Not my consensus.
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Maybe so. However, I suspect if you ask pretty much anyone who has grown up playing football or going to watch football then they'd say otherwise.

It's like me saying a penalty isn't called a penalty - it's a 12 yard kick. I may have my opinion, but most people (the consensus) would disagree and rightly so.

It may come from a set-piece situation, but once a corner is taken and it comes to someone else (the scorer) it's in open play.
 
PhilM said:
Maybe so. However, I suspect if you ask pretty much anyone who has grown up playing football or going to watch football then they'd say otherwise.

It's like me saying a penalty isn't called a penalty - it's a 12 yard kick. I may have my opinion, but most people (the consensus) would disagree.
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I'm from the new age. I don't really care if they did it differently in the 1990s.

The second part isn't a good example at all. And while I agree where a set play starts and ends is fluid and up for debate I also think that ending it the second someone touches it after the corner or free kick very much misses the point of classifying it as something different than standard play. When I say not my consensus what I mean is the places that count things like set play goals categorically do not view it that way.
 

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