Today's football.

[Brennan]

It's nothing to do with luck. If you're so tactically inept as a manager as to try and hold on to an aggregate goals win at home against relegation fodder in a season defining game, then you make you're own luck by being useless at your job.

He's just isn't a good manager. It's been glaringly obvious for a decade - his nous in the transfer market as a glorified director of football propelled us up the league as the standard of player just dictates that you can't fall so far, but at the level he's at now you've got to know how to use the players effectively to win.

World class director of football, an abysmal failure of a manager.

That's nonsense.

As a manager he got us from bottom half of the table to consistent top 6 challengers on a shoestring budget with a few European trips along the way. Regardless of whether he's tactically inferior to other managers at the highest level, he's never a failure as a manager.

He may fail at United, but very few coaches are cut out to manage one of the biggest teams in the world.

 

[toffeejack]

Why? We don't want Europa, it'll ruin us as it does every team. It's designed to prevent the "big clubs" in each league being dislodged from their thrones. Champions League or nothing...

awaits brennan to provide the stat that proves you wrong.

Manchester United have now lost five out of their six matches this month.

hmm

 

[tommye]

Must be the only one on here who feels sorry for him, this is the second time I've felt sorry for him now.

i might have felt sorry for him if he hadn't lied to evertonians, to us, over his contract.

i might have felt sorry for him if he hadn't offered what he knew was a piss take offer for baines and felli.

i might have felt sorry for him if he hadn't tried playing Charlie big Bollox and said Everton were holding both players back in their careers.


but he ruined it all, for me, when he rolled over in the swamp derby 2seasons ago. That was the night I gave up caring about him.


the sour faced whingeing ballbag

 

[steken1]

When's the replay of this game on and what channel?

Haha, Innit Tubes!

 

[Arsene]

I honestly think this is good for Moyes. imagine if they went to the final and City hammered them. That would be much harder for the manure fans to take

 

[Librarian]

Mata'll get the hook first time he loses his man defending a corner

 

[ToffeeDan]

Moyes only excels from adversity - small guy vs big guy, siege mentality, us against them. It's pretty hard to instill that into a team of multiple champions.. and let's be honest he had enough practice at it at Everton having lead us into several rabbit warrens with some abysmal starts to seasons - but when push came to shove in must win ties and league games - not to mention nearly every Derby match (home and away) he just didn't cut it. How that escaped the gaze of the United board and Ferguson heaven only knows.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Mata'll get the hook first time he loses his man defending a corner

This ffs

THIS!!!

 

[Khalekan]

I've been saying it for a while

Moyes just isn't a lucky manager

Someone else's problem now.

Au contraire.

The man is a decidedly average manager whom has won the lottery by becoming a multi nillionaire thanks to us and will soon have that fortune augmented by Manchester United when they pay him off.

His failure to win the big matches is due to his own limitations.....nowt to with luck.

Luck he has in abundance.

 

[steken1]

Mata'll get the hook first time he loses his man defending a corner

Have they deffo signed Mata?

If so, Mourinho musn't think F all of Moyes and Man Utd these days!

 

[Brennan]

Why? We don't want Europa, it'll ruin us as it does every team. It's designed to prevent the "big clubs" in each league being dislodged from their thrones. Champions League or nothing...

Our highest points total in the last 10 years came when we were heavily involved in the UEFA. In recent times competing in Europe has never damaged our league performance significantly, if at all.

Myth.

 

[bicycleheader]

I just hope Steve Round is okay. It's him I'm worried about most.

 

[obc]

stolen from the web.

 

[Jags..class]

Mata'll get the hook first time he loses his man defending a corner

Yeah but he a class attacking player which makes up for it, but hey lets play welbreck cos he tracks back and does some defensive work.

 

[potato]

Have they deffo signed Mata?

If so, Mourinho musn't think F all of Moyes and Man Utd these days!

man utd are offering chelsea 37 million for a player chelsea dont even want or need

its like man utd offering us 37 million for naismith

damn right i'd snap their fingers off doesnt matter who is making the bid.