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carolinablue232 said:
Obviously referring to the myriad of England youth coaches spoke of.

And apologies, but I'm not taking a Koeman or Allardyce decision on a player as anything worth noting on player evaluation.
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We crucify our own at the same time as we heap lavish praise on opponents after seeing them for 90 minutes.

Half the forum has been clambering for us to sign Wan Bissaka after one game against us. Did you see the Chelsea Palace game yesterday?. Guarantee if that was us he'd have been absolutely ripped apart on here for that performance. And Hazard never even played.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
We crucify our own at the same time as we heap lavish praise on opponents after seeing them for 90 minutes.

Half the forum has been clambering for us to sign Wan Bissaka after one game against us. Did you see the Chelsea Palace game yesterday?. Guarantee if that was us he'd have been absolutely ripped apart on here for that performance. And Hazard never even played.
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Barnfred 55 said:
We crucify our own at the same time as we heap lavish praise on opponents after seeing them for 90 minutes.

Half the forum has been clambering for us to sign Wan Bissaka after one game against us. Did you see the Chelsea Palace game yesterday?. Guarantee if that was us he'd have been absolutely ripped apart on here for that performance. And Hazard never even played.
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While I agree, Hazard came on and changed the game.
 
dublinbluenose said:
There's something to be said for keeping him here and letting him train alongside Gomes everyday, he'll learn more watching and working with him than playing in the championship. He's had plenty of playing time now so doesn't really need a loan to aclimatise to senior football per say.
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I also think he's done enough tough playing, but a stint in a top Championship team might just define what type of player he is

I'd prefer him to stay along with DCL, Kenny, Lookman and Dowell and somehow we work them into th team, motivate them and get them working together so that in 3-4 years, they are all really good together.
 

roydo said:
While I agree, Hazard came on and changed the game.
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Sorry. Meant to put Hazard never even started.

But the point remains, the lad had a very tough game and defensively was found out a few times before hazard made an appearance. Now this is only to be expected from a young defender and I do like this kid. But had that been us he would have been mauled.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
We crucify our own at the same time as we heap lavish praise on opponents after seeing them for 90 minutes.

Half the forum has been clambering for us to sign Wan Bissaka after one game against us. Did you see the Chelsea Palace game yesterday?. Guarantee if that was us he'd have been absolutely ripped apart on here for that performance. And Hazard never even played.
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You do realize judging him negatively based on one poor game is the same as others judging him based on one good game, right? You also realize people do watch premier league games outside of just Everton, right? He’s a very good right back already with an extremely high ceiling.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
We crucify our own at the same time as we heap lavish praise on opponents after seeing them for 90 minutes.

Half the forum has been clambering for us to sign Wan Bissaka after one game against us. Did you see the Chelsea Palace game yesterday?. Guarantee if that was us he'd have been absolutely ripped apart on here for that performance. And Hazard never even played.
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To be fair it seems the entire football world is talking about Wan Bissaka. He's a legitimate talent.
 

carolinablue232 said:
You do realize judging him negatively based on one poor game is the same as others judging him based on one good game, right? You also realize people do watch premier league games outside of just Everton, right? He’s a very good right back already with an extremely high ceiling.
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I realise all of those things mate. But here's the thing. Very few people on here, perhaps only one that springs to mind, were saying much about him prior to when we played Palace a few weeks ago. During the match thread that game, and in a number of threads since including the Seamus Coleman thread, there's probably been upward of 50 shouts from people on here to buy him. So I don't actually believe my post was too far off the mark.

But my post was more aimed at another issue I have. Which is this. When we watch our own young players we tend to focus on the things that they do wrong, the errors that they make, rather than the positives they bring. When we watch other teams young players we tend to notice the good things they do, because we aren't that arsed about their mistakes because they don't affect us directly. Which is why I made that comment about him being crucified on here. The internet is full of forums slagging off young players.

Also, I wasn't judging the lad negatively in my post. If you ever bother to read my posts on young players you would know I am very tolerant of their bad games which they will inevitably have from time to time as they learn the game. At the same time I don't go overboard about them either when they are hailed as the next big thing.. As it happens I do actually rate Wan Bissaka quite highly, I just don't think he is that much superior to Kenny or that he has a much greater ceiling than him. He is a different type of player and is certainly more athletic which is why he catches the eye. But calls for him to replace Seamus Coleman after just a handful of senior games are wide of the mark for me.

If we had him now, and he played like he did on Sunday, he would get as much stick in here as Kenny and Holgate do whenever they have a bad game.
 
Pittsburgh Footy said:
To be fair it seems the entire football world is talking about Wan Bissaka. He's a legitimate talent.
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Not saying he isn't mate. he's certainly one to watch for the future. But before the summer did you know who he was? I didn't. He only played a handful of games for Palace before this season and people are talking about paying over £50/60m for him. Nuts.
 

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