Ukraine invasion and the sanction of Oligarchs

[lancs blue]

The question is how has moshiri massed his billions being an Iranian accountant - fact. Depends on how deep the powers that be want to delve down

 

[Efcjake]

Sanctions began in 2014 and have continually been increased ever since. Are you really suggesting that the west should go for a diplomatic solution to the invasion of a sovereign state ?

You make Neville Chamberlain sound like a tough negotiator. Putin isn't going to stop at the Ukraine.

@gwladysnight Stadium finance and foreign policy expert.

We are blessed to have you here on GOT

 

[Efcjake]

The question is how has moshiri massed his billions being an Iranian accountant - fact. Depends on how deep the powers that be want to delve down

Its very simple pal.

He worked for Usmanov for years and Usmanov reward him, Skov and other members of his management team with percentages of USM.

 

[Azza]

USM Limited Liability Company now listed on US sanctions list - https://sanctionssearch.ofac.treas.gov/Details.aspx?id=34765

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Why?

Our gas as a country comes from Putins Russia. Should we not use energy too?

Why?
Because USM are a Russian entity and Russia has invaded a European country with no provocation therefore they should be treated as pariahs.
And ,yes ,we should not use their gas or any other product.
But you know this and just seem to have adopted a belligerent apologist stance.

 

[lancs blue]

Its very simple pal.

He worked for Usmanov for years and Usmanov reward him, Skov and other members of his management team with percentages of USM.

Id hang him out to dry

Kenwright has received dodgy funds

March them both to Tower of London and hang draw and quarter

I don't think kenwright will last though

 

[Efcjake]

Id hang him out to dry

Kenwright has received dodgy funds

March them both to Tower of London and hang draw and quarter

I don't think kenwright will last though

Not if he has to walk

 

[lancs blue]

USM Limited Liability Company now listed on US sanctions list - https://sanctionssearch.ofac.treas.gov/Details.aspx?id=34765

Football will be interesting in months to come
Wonder if abramovich turning Israeli will help him - doubt it

 

[catcherintherye]

Sanctions began in 2014 and have continually been increased ever since. Are you really suggesting that the west should go for a diplomatic solution to the invasion of a sovereign state ?

You make Neville Chamberlain sound like a tough negotiator. Putin isn't going to stop at the Ukraine.

I agree with the Stop The War Position, and that of Zana Sultana. Time to stop the hawkish rhetoric that has helped caused this mess, and time for some sensible diplomacy. A solution can be found.

And Putin is not going to invade a NATO nation. He has been spooked by NATO expansion and made a bad decision.

 

[lancs blue]

Not if he has to walk

Stick him on a donkey

 

[lancs blue]

I agree with the Stop The War Position, and that of Zana Sultana. Time to stop the hawkish rhetoric that has helped caused this mess, and time for some sensible diplomacy. A solution can be found.

And Putin is not going to invade a NATO nation. He has been spooked by NATO expansion and made a bad decision.

Who knows with a despot mad man

No one can second guess

 

[catcherintherye]

No, a tiny percentage of our gas comes from Russia. Given that the point of these sanctions is to financially hit the Oligarchs who profited from the sell off of things like publicly owned Russian gas companies. We will soon be using zero Russian gas.

Sanctions on a country hurt the poorest the most.

Are you in favour of sanctions on the British for the crimes in Ireland for example? Or do those was crimes not count?

For the time being, we all probably use some Russian gas. So should we be sanctioned? Or if your pension fund has international exposure (and therefore some Russian exposure) same question. Where does the madness end?

 

[gwladysnight]

It won't affect the 2.7 billion already in Moshiri's accounts though.

Someone's net worth is not what they have in the bank. The vast majority of Moshiri's wealth is almost certainly tied up in Everton and USM. He will never get his money back for Everton in the current climate and USM is now on the US sanctions list.

 

[catcherintherye]

Who knows with a despot mad man

No one can second guess

Most people tend to behave with self interest in mind.

The constant war rhetoric from the Tory knobheads hadnt helped. Let's try and find a diplomatic compromise before more lives are lost. It's got to be worth a try at least.

 

[catcherintherye]

Someone's net worth is not what they have in the bank. The vast majority of Moshiri's wealth is almost certainly tied up in Everton and USM. He will never get his money back for Everton in the current climate and USM is now on the US sanctions list.

It's not on USM mate. He owns less tha 10% of that.

He has a diversified portfolio. Lots of property all over the world.

But you are right, its not sitting in a bank.

I suspect he will know exactly where all of USMs wealth is held, and knows it's well away from b rate government officials as well, who these people run rings around.