Vaping as bad for your heart as smoking!!!

[Moomin]

Oh and fairly new concept? Been on the market for at least 6 years so far mate. Even longer in other capacities, still nothing related to it disease wise.

Long term is a lot longer than 6 years though.

 

[Ashtonian]

I wasn't at the conference but I'm pretty sure presenting into the world's top heart specialists they will have to offer up some actual proof and research.

OK, you would rather believe some scruff vape hipster in a baseball cap working at a vape shop ( which will be closed down within a few years ) than the world's top conference on cardiology.

Where is their studies? Haha

Just because a room full of doctors decide they need to study vaping (completely right btw) it suddenly doesn't make it evil.

What about the thousands of cardiologists and respiratory consultants and whatever else who back it? What about the department of health of England?

 

[Ashtonian]

Long term is a lot longer than 6 years though.

How long then?

20 years? 40 years? In 6 years you can get all sorts of illness through smoking, even I had a reaction to it in that space of time

 

[Sy-]

I can promise you, despite my lack of medical degree that anything connected to vaping and the heart is down to nicotine. Same as cigarettes, same as caffeine, or being fat or countless other things.

To be honest , it is a little bit stupid to fear monger about nicotine in e cigarettes considering that is the point of them lol

Oh absolutely, it's the nicotine element all day long. All stimulants mess with your heart (and brain).

 

[DownOnTheUpside]

 

[Ashtonian]

Oh absolutely, it's the nicotine element all day long. All stimulants mess with your heart (and brain).

I'll even go on record to say that vaping worse than giving up entirely as you are inhaling something. Again basic research there lol

Oh and @Moomin explain the BBC documentary where their independent research actually put vaping slightly better than other nrt therapies including patches?

 

[DownOnTheUpside]

Oh absolutely, it's the nicotine element all day long. All stimulants mess with your heart (and brain).

Funny thing is nicotine isnt actually a stimulant
Its a deliriant in the same class as dph and nightshade
You just normally dont get enough to hallucinate with cured tobacco
Smoke uncured tobacco or nicotiana rustica (what was in peace pipes) and you'll trip utter balls

 

[LocalNative]

Vaping is the silliest thing ever

 

[Ashtonian]

Vaping is the silliest thing ever

Somewhat agree.

Not as silly as smoking though

 

[Norwegian Cow]

what is vaping?

 

[Sapie88]

Hahahahahaha!

 

[Yorkie]

Wow, so the European Society for Cardiology present jarg information. Don't do any proof or studies??

If he's insulting the European society for cardiology he'll have me to deal with!
It's an organisation close to my heart.

 

[cooperman]

It's carbon monoxide that is most harmful for a healthy heart in cig smoke as it depletes the oxygen in your blood, making the heart work harder. Unless they've suddenly started adding this to vaping cigs I very much doubt they are 'just as harmful'.

 

[silent bob]

If he's insulting the European society for cardiology he'll have me to deal with!
It's an organisation close to my heart.

You've spent too much time with @Donald Twain.

 

[McBain]