Vaping - Popcorn Lung

[Boss_Blue]

SAY IT TO MY FAAAAAAAACCCCCE

SHUT UP PREV

 

[The Cowboy]

No. It's not. Crack is much worse for your health. You ever heard of "crack lung"?

Is that like 'Czech neck'?

 

[l4toffee]

Great post. I've not been out in Liverpool in ages and I'm struggling to picture these 'ket wigs' on scousers, though. I had to Google it.

It's a bizarre look . But then being a bald git I could only dream of growing a ket wig

 

[COYBL25]

Great post. I've not been out in Liverpool in ages and I'm struggling to picture these 'ket wigs' on scousers, though. I had to Google it.

Watch out if your in the company car though mate, they come out of nowhere doing wheelies.

 

[Blue 1]

Is that like 'Czech neck'?

Hahaha no it's an actual thing.

 

[Moomin]

Well played Malaysia

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/12/malaysia-cigs-vaping-muslims-smoke-151223145620828.html

 

[RAFUH]

http://www.rti.org/newsroom/news.cfm?obj=634D5E57-AE47-910C-96E6B0EE7A3C9455

RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK, N.C. — On the heels of the Federal Drug Administration's (FDA) second public workshop to explore the public health considerations associated with e-cigarettes, nonprofit research organization RTI International released a new research paper "Exhaled Electronic Cigarette Emissions: What's Your Secondhand Exposure?," which explores the composition of e-cigarette vapor and the potential health impacts of secondhand exposure.

"As proliferation of e-cigarettes surges, understanding the health effects of e-cigarette use and exposure to vapors is essential," said Jonathan Thornburg, Ph.D., author of the study published by RTI Press, and director of Exposure and Aerosol Technology at RTI. "We need to be aggressively investing in and conducting research that answers lingering questions about the potential health impacts of secondhand exposure to e-cigarettes, while taking the necessary action to protect public health now."

The study finds e-cigarette emissions contain enough nicotine, and numerous other chemicals to cause concern. A non-user may be exposed to secondhand aerosol particles similar in size to tobacco smoke and diesel engine smoke. Meanwhile, e-cigarettes are a rapidly growing business with annual sales doubling yearly to $1 billion in 2013, and a current lack of regulation that has allowed for a surge in marketing.

Because e-cigarette products are not yet regulated, the chemicals and devices involved vary widely, as may the potential health impacts. Many factors — including the specific device used — influence the chemical makeup and toxicity of e-cigarette emissions. The full scope of health impacts of e-cigarette smoke, as well as secondhand exposure's impacts on children, is still unknown.

"Secondhand exposure to e-cigarettes is just one aspect of the research that must be considered as we make decisions about appropriate use of these products," said Annice Kim, Ph.D., senior social scientist at RTI. "It is critical that we explore the role of e-cigarette marketing — especially to children and youth — so that we can better understand motivators for use and put public health safeguards in place."

RTI hosted a press briefing today to answer questions about public health concerns associated with secondhand exposure to e-cigarette emissions and product marketing.

The briefing featured RTI experts Thornburg and Kim as well as Stanton Glantz, Ph.D., professor of medicine, University of California, San Francisco (UCSF) and director, UCSF Center for Tobacco Control Research and Education.

E-cigarettes are nicotine-delivering consumer products designed to closely mimic the experience of smoking conventional cigarettes. The courts have already determined e-cigarettes to be tobacco products, and the FDA has proposed following the same classification. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, secondhand smoke from traditional cigarettes has killed 2.5 million adults who were non-smokers, in the past 50 years. Secondhand smoke from traditional cigarettes is associated with the top four causes of death in America.

To read the study "Exhaled Electronic Cigarette Emissions: What's Your Secondhand Exposure?," which is the 100th publication of RTI Press, and to access more research about e-cigarettes, visit http://www.rti.org/e-cigarettes and follow RTI on Twitter @RTI_Intl.

http://www.rti.org/pubs/secondhand_exposure_to_electronic_cigarette_emissions.pdf

 

[Yorkie]

33 but all this modern crap makes me feel 63

How skinny is skinny though? You mean "slim fit" or full on painted on?

 

[l4toffee]

How skinny is skinny though? You mean "slim fit" or full on painted on?

full on painted on

 

[carlos21]

full on painted on

Hi mate how are you today

 

[Yorkie]

full on painted on

Ah fair play. Yeah they're daft, look like jeggings or something.

 

[Ashtonian]

http://www.rti.org/newsroom/news.cfm?obj=634D5E57-AE47-910C-96E6B0EE7A3C9455

http://www.rti.org/pubs/secondhand_exposure_to_electronic_cigarette_emissions.pdf

Hi

The NHS is already backing research in this country that proves that it is as dangerous as inhaling fresh air.

the problem with a lot of stories like this is the simple, in who's interests are they for? Who pays for research? What are the results meant to be showing? For example i read one the other month that was worded negatively to vaping, but compare it to smoking and the results were negilible. Hell the title of this thread is misleading because there is more of the stuff in a cigarette than in any liquid and smokers never get popcorn lung.

 

[l4toffee]

Hi mate how are you today

Shattered mate . The dog hasn't stopped whining all night .

 

[carlos21]

Shattered mate . The dog hasn't stopped whining all night .

What dog you mate,

 

[RAFUH]

Hi

The NHS is already backing research in this country that proves that it is as dangerous as inhaling fresh air.

the problem with a lot of stories like this is the simple, in who's interests are they for? Who pays for research? What are the results meant to be showing? For example i read one the other month that was worded negatively to vaping, but compare it to smoking and the results were negilible. Hell the title of this thread is misleading because there is more of the stuff in a cigarette than in any liquid and smokers never get popcorn lung.

Didn't care about the thread title. Just didn't want to start another vaping thread.

And I am not going to argue with you as you are a "true believer"

I am just providing information. A single positive study does not mean vaping is safe any more than a single negative study can determine it is unsafe. It is good to hear all sides and all evidence in any discussion. Vaping may turn out to be completely safe, but IMO it is too soon to determine that beyond a reasonable scientific doubt especially any long-term effects.

Honestly, I say very similar things about new FDA approved medications. I spent a lot of years learning that chemicals we ingest/inhale always have unintended consequences. It is always about benefits vs risks and that will be a different balance for different people.