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Vaping - Popcorn Lung

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Ashtonian said:
In most cases, the nicotine levels drop to non existent levels eventually. Or decrease use in the more casual users. My nic level in 18 months has dropped down to 3mg from 12mg, generally people drop from 16mg to 6mg or less. this is in a lot of cases, not just solely one or two examples.

But in a general sense to answer your question about the increase in use, this is the science behind it. Smoking a cigarette gives you 1mg of nicotine, which is designed in a way to get to your brain in seconds. This is why a cigarette is enjoyed so much, the quick hit of the nicotine. E cigs are different, a bottle of liquid at say 12mg isnt going to deliver 12mg in each hit, nor in each tank. the totle about of liquid will accumulate to 12 mg nicotine, but if that whole bottle is vaped over the time span of a week, then that is 12mg in a week, not several quick hits a day.

So the actual nicotine consumption is greatly decreased for anyone not vaping at the top end of the liquid, granted 18mg nicotine (which is for fresh quitters) is the only time you are getting a similar hit in a tank (not draw) of a cigarette. so dropping the level down, the amount of nicotine you are taking in compared to a cigareete has a massive difference, and therefore the consumption of the nicotine is much smaller.

there is also science to do with the lungs but that's not connected to the above.
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RAFUH said:
Some products have less. Others have higher nicotine levels. There is also the question (not yet answered) if the relative perceived safety compared to cigarettes increases use, therefore increasing overall nicotine exposure.

Your personal experience of e-cigs decreasing nicotine exposure is great, but it is anecdotal evidence and can't be generalized to all or even most users.
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the science behind it doesn't vary from person to person?

I imagine we are talking about two separate things currently, no matter who uses the e cig, the amount of nicotine delivered in the small space of time is lowered, so in pretty much most cases anyone who vapes instead of smokes will be getting less nicotine in a safer way than if they were smoking it.
 

FTY said:
Got told to "fck off" by a customer in work because I told him he couldn't use his vape iinside.

Sums up the sort of people that use them really doesn't it @Ashtonian?
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Not really mate.

But of a generalisation like the guy wearing a hat told.me to f off so all people.in hats must be like that
 

Baines' left foot said:
One of my mates is in rehab from using these.

5x more addictive than heroin experts reckon.

Yeah lad but it lights up in the dark and plays a tune when you toke it.
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I dont think my e giggie is the same as vaping. It just looks like a normal ciggie, and I dont have these flavoured stuff.

I deliver to a small business who make the flavours, and I get a headache just being in there or a minute or 2.
 
roydo said:
I dont think my e giggie is the same as vaping. It just looks like a normal ciggie, and I dont have these flavoured stuff.

I deliver to a small business who make the flavours, and I get a headache just being in there or a minute or 2.
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Probably industrial stuff mate. I make my own liquids and there's no part if it that gives off fumes or anything like that so can't imagine what would do it in a wider area.
 

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