VAR

[ToffeeTim]

The worst part about the incident on Saturday is that the referee wasn't even shown the angle which clearly showed the shirt pull by De Ligt

It was bad enough that an official saw a shirt pull and still thought there was a clear and obvious error. But to not show the referee the proper replays is ridiculous.

 

[Milkman]

Just get rid of it immediately, it's that simple really. Football was so much better without it.

 

[ToffeeTim]

VAR is only going to be as good as the people using it. If the officials are not good enough to use it properly, then get rid of VAR and let referees do their job. We can all accept mistakes will be made in real time.

 

[deipnosophist]

VAR in football is become a layer of protection for the 'elite': it's here to stay. And it's why I no longer watch (i.e. 'pay for') live PL action. It's become integral component of the 'bread and circus' BS that have corrupted the game.

 

[RufusCat]

Well, he must be feeling like a right turd today because all the other pundits said clear penalty.

Probably not as Sutton deliberately takes the opposite view to be "controversial" - its why he keeps getting paid by the BBC. The sooner he is ditched the better.

 

[Jacko93]

What I want to know is why no one in the crowd lashed a cold Scouse pie in the ref’s grid as he walked off.

Mostly because the scouse pies dont get cold for about 7-8 business days.

 

[Bryan+]

Was VAR in use

Just get rid of it immediately, it's that simple really. Football was so much better without it.

it wasn't at all. The minor issues like this are vastly outweighed by the balance of right calls they get.

 

[johnjoeefc]

I'm buzzing to see what dermot Gallagher has to say about it today on ref watch

 

[Timbucktoo]

It depends what you mean by 'works really well' in rugby I suppose. It's an accepted part of the game so it works well in that sense, but whether it leads to better decisions and whether hearing the referees actually adds anything to the experience I don't know. Part of the issue is what you come to later - there are loads of 3-4 minute delays in rugby because it's a stop start game and nobody really cares that they're taking their time with a decision because nothing else would be happening anyway. In football it's different, the whole appeal of the game is how fast it is and taking an age to reach decisions when the crowd want to see the ball in play is one of the things people hate most about it.

They have been working to speed up the play and cut down on the amount of long delays because it dosen`t make for great viewing, which seems to be the opposite of what is happening in football. They seem to only stop when there is some serious foul play picked up by the TMO.
The problem in our game is that the rules have far too many grey areas. Even the simple rules they bring in they don`t even enforce, Keeper can only hold onto the ball for 10 seconds but plenty will hold the ball much longer and not being penalized, injured players have to leave the pitch for treatment, except for an obvious serious injury, but players go down, physio is allowed on, treats the player on the pitch, the game stopped for nothing.
Offside is the big killer and they shouldn`t be going into the detail they go to.

 

[JLW]

I'm buzzing to see what dermot Gallagher has to say about it today on ref watch

I despise that breathing corpse

 

[Simo]

VAR in football is become a layer of protection for the 'elite': it's here to stay. And it's why I no longer watch (i.e. 'pay for') live PL action. It's become integral component of the 'bread and circus' BS that have corrupted the game.

You not in line for a ST then?
IPTV all the way

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

I'm buzzing to see what dermot Gallagher has to say about it today on ref watch

Doesn't matter what he says.

We did not get the penalty.

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

You not in line for a ST then?
IPTV all the way

Absolutely.

 

[dockroad]

Probably not as Sutton deliberately takes the opposite view to be "controversial" - its why he keeps getting paid by the BBC. The sooner he is ditched the better.

Yet he was rambling on about his love for Goodison the other day because it's where he made his debut .

 

[JohnyH]

I’m a fan of VAR in general but the way it’s being mishandled by these bunch of cowards is criminal. It gets rid of the the clear injustices and I actually like the offside bit.

But on the “subjective” ones it’s used time and time again to bail out the big6 clubs. The furorer that would ensure if ones of these went against them it’s too much for the cowards to deal with so they side with them.

always against those mancs. Two seasons ago their attacker and our defender planted their feet at the same time on the 18 yard line at the park end and of course the red tumbled over. No one ever saw it as a pen and it was even waved away as he wasn’t even getting the ball.

Then VAR gets involved the review down and of course a peno. It makes you sick.

It clear to me that with these contentious ones if the ref gives it, VAR will get involved to reverse it. And if it’s not given by the on pitch ref the opposite will happen VAR will get involved to then give it.

If cowards grouping together as a team of three to say look we’ve all reviewed it and we happy to go with VAR. almost to justify the decision.
They need to be sanctioned every time an overstep of NOT clear and obvious is changed.