Vinyl

[jazzy]

The sound quality thing is really subjective/debatable. My gf's dads hifi is crazy, crazy expensive (well over 50k brand new), he spends all day talking it apart and changing things and he has given up with vinyl. most of his music is now wireless, and before that it was CD. He said vinyl quality varies so much that it's not worth it for your the speakers, but obviously that is proper top end stuff

C there is no debate.

I have a Naim CD player that cost over £5k.

My Rega turntable with Ania moving coil cartridge "only" cost £1800.

I play the same recording and the vinyl has far better warmth , reality and musicality.

Sure the digital is crystal clear but sounds cold in comparison.

Genuinely in a quality system there is no comparison. Streaming is even worse by the way

 

[jazzy]

Every hifi head I`ve ever known is like this, they`re never ever happy with what they`ve got and are always competing against other hifi heads lol

This is true of very many hi fi fans.

I've had my system for about 3 years but yeah I'm looking to upgrade my speakers

 

[jazzy]

My main dilemma is I have about 500 cds and if i to try and replace my favourites or new stuff

That's exactly the journey that I'm on now Neil

 

[jazzy]

Great stuff mate and similar tastes I think. Bygone times is worth it for the day out alone, £2.50 gets you life membership too and free entry with it. Let me know if you go and I'll tell you where the stash is. All in dust covers too. It's our rainy day "go to " place. Stock changes quickly.

Bygone Times is about 15 minutes away from us but I haven't been in years.

How much vinyl do they have ? Is it worth a visit for that alone ?

My go to place is Legacy Records in Southport. The owner Alex is brilliant and a mine of information

 

[coollino]

C there is no debate.

I have a Naim CD player that cost over £5k.

My Rega turntable with Ania moving coil cartridge "only" cost £1800.

I play the same recording and the vinyl has far better warmth , reality and musicality.

Sure the digital is crystal clear but sounds cold in comparison.

Genuinely in a quality system there is no comparison. Streaming is even worse by the way

By wireless, I didn't mean streaming. I meant wireless from some kind of drive. I can't remember the name of it at all, it's higher that FLAC. It's something like .d

A lot of people he talks to have moved away from vinyl to it

 

[Street end man]

Bygone Times is about 15 minutes away from us but I haven't been in years.

How much vinyl do they have ? Is it worth a visit for that alone ?

My go to place is Legacy Records in Southport. The owner Alex is brilliant and a mine of information

We can't be that far away from each other then, I'm about the same time away from it too mate.
As for is it worth visiting for that alone, I'd say probably not, although saying that there are boxes of vinyl dotted all over the place. A lad off here is going today for a particular box of soul stuff I found last week, it'll be interesting to hear what he thinks later.
Interesting to read what you say about Vinyl v CD v Streaming, I have done the rounds with them all and the best I've come up with as a source is the cheap and cheerful Raspberry Pi fitted with a Dac from ALLO, very cheap and cheerful as I say but jeez, warmth, big soundstage the lot. Incredible really. My hunt for the unnatainable is over. Small world as I've a Naim CD player in the system too. Not switched it on for 2 years though as I'd lost interest in it.Must compare notes at some point

 

[neil999]

Streaming really is amazing tbh, imagine in the 80s and 90s being able to listen to any song or album, it just has made things a bit soulless and i always end up putting on an artists top tracks instead of albums...a real careful what you wish for situation

 

[Simon Buttle]

Fascinating thread this, I used to collect a fair bit back in the day before it got more popular (and more expensive) Sadly I got to that point where all the stuff I still wanted was well out of my price range or had such a low number of pressings that finding a copy was nigh on impossible. I ended up selling everything I had in a moment of madness to help fund my addiction issues at the time for literally 1/3 of what it was probably worth. I look at the prices of stuff now just with an open mouth, there are records I had (in decent condition) that are going for four figure sums now.

 

[Rob17896]

Considering your rich history of posting how everything is terrible and the world is rigged, you must be a real joy to be around

Missed the joke I see. Take care.

 

[Rob17896]

C there is no debate.

I have a Naim CD player that cost over £5k.

My Rega turntable with Ania moving coil cartridge "only" cost £1800.

I play the same recording and the vinyl has far better warmth , reality and musicality.

Sure the digital is crystal clear but sounds cold in comparison.

Genuinely in a quality system there is no comparison. Streaming is even worse by the way

Have you also noticed that live gigs, maybe from 2,000 audience up, are not as good anymore as the sound systems are too crystal clear. Digital has removed the 'balls' from a lot of music. Likewise things like the Mellotron, just not the same.

 

[Chewbacca]

For insurance purposes my brothers vinyl collection is valued at £52000. Lots of unopened box sets and rarities.

 

[coollino]

Streaming really is amazing tbh, imagine in the 80s and 90s being able to listen to any song or album, it just has made things a bit soulless and i always end up putting on an artists top tracks instead of albums...a real careful what you wish for situation

Yeah it works both ways really. I'm definitely still an album person but I've loved an album for a month or two, but then completely forgot about it which does annoy me. But that's the way it is I guess until you buy a physical copy

Plus it's crap for the artists, but I think nearly all ways are these days apart from buying things at merch stands at gigs. the second hand physical copy market is even worse than streaming

 

[ClausThomsen]

Yeah it works both ways really. I'm definitely still an album person but I've loved an album for a month or two, but then completely forgot about it which does annoy me. But that's the way it is I guess until you buy a physical copy

Plus it's crap for the artists, but I think nearly all ways are these days apart from buying things at merch stands at gigs. the second hand physical copy market is even worse than streaming

Trouble is back in the day of peak physical media it was a hobby well within financial reach of it's main demographic - mainly teenagers and young adults. Pocket money for the singles, a little bit more for the album.

Now they're asking £30 minimum for a new release and gigs cost a fortune as well.

 

[Yid4life]

I mostly buy vinyl for my specific collection but rarely actually play it.

 

[Daz1878]

Trouble is back in the day of peak physical media it was a hobby well within financial reach of it's main demographic - mainly teenagers and young adults. Pocket money for the singles, a little bit more for the album.

Now they're asking £30 minimum for a new release and gigs cost a fortune as well.

The prices are definitely pretty stiff - if someone buys, say, just one or two carefully-chosen vinyl albums a year they probably don't mind throwing down ~£50 a pop, but if, like me, you buy a fair few then a lot of shopping around/waiting for price drops is called for.

Prices of gigs are steep too, but I appreciate that this is the main way for artists to make money these days; it used to be that bands toured to promote an album, but nowadays the album promotes the tour.