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Violence at the games

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chicoazul said:
I've worked around plenty of Europe and with loads of different nationalities. On the contrary they're sound towards me and I get on well with them.

The problem is politicians and select groups of small minded xenophobic dickheads who think we are still at war and put ten pints down them.

That's the culture that needs eradicating right there. English, Russian, whoever really.
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Agree wholeheartedly, mate. That's what I was inferring, to a degree. For some sections of every nation, this warlike and ingrained hatred/injustice/clashes/traditions is what is motivating this constant need to 'prove' something when these idiots get within shouting distance of one another. There seems to be a sick excitement about having the opportunity to go into 'battle' with an old enemy or a country who have recently had some political tensions.

It's remarkable, even these many decades on, that we can't put that terrible immaturity behind us - and I'm referring to EVERY European country when I say 'we.'
 

Durham Toffee said:
Agree wholeheartedly, mate. That's what I was inferring, to a degree. For some sections of every nation, this warlike and ingrained hatred/injustice/clashes/traditions is what is motivating this constant need to 'prove' something when these idiots get within shouting distance of one another. There seems to be a sick excitement about having the opportunity to go into 'battle' with an old enemy or a country who have recently had some political tensions.

It's remarkable, even these many decades on, that we can't put that terrible immaturity behind us - and I'm referring to EVERY European country when I say 'we.'
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Defo. It does tend to be certain countries that suffer from it rather than others though. Like England.

The segregation on the stadium last night too was piss poor for what was evidentially a flashpoint game.
 
micknick said:
Personally I think that there's more to it than the media are showing. This piece by Stan Collymore was interesting:



I don't think all England fans are angels- far from it. Especially as it's so close a few less desirables can obviously make the trip a lot easier. But I do think it's easy to point at the English as the trouble makers in it all
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Always keen to read your insights Mick.
 
dublinbluenose said:
There's no doubt the threat of a terrorist attack leading to a dilution of resources is making France a hooligans paradise.
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The thing is mate, it's actually ideal for a bomb to go off when you think about it - police all pre occupied with Stone Island scruffs and some nutter with a bomb lets it go amidst all the scrapping !
 
bflefc said:
Looks like Dresden's ultras are at he heart of things up in Lille, although some lids I know who are up there reckon it's local French mobs attacking the Ukrainians. I suspect it's a bit of everyone attacking each other, a bit like in Marseille.

Very civilised here in Avignon. I'm just about to order food and have another glass of wine.
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....on the bridge?
 

dublinbluenose said:
There's no doubt the threat of a terrorist attack leading to a dilution of resources is making France a hooligans paradise.
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But that's the crying shame about it.

You'd think - mere months after "uniting" around the French for the terrible atrocities that they had to suffer - that we'd all (Europeans) continue to respect that they have enough on their plate and come together to enjoy the tournament for what it is...a bloody football tournament. Enjoy it, have a laugh, have a few pints, meet some fellas from another country, learn a bit of lingo and watch some football without the need to ram 12 pints down your neck in two hours and offer out the world because they're a 'bit different' from you.
 
COYBL25 said:
The thing is mate, it's actually ideal for a bomb to go off when you think about it - police all pre occupied with Stone Island scruffs and some nutter with a bomb lets it go amidst all the scrapping !
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Classic British warfare and counter terrorism tactic actually. See Paris incident for proof.
 

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