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Transfer Rumour Virgil Van Dijk

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Moomin said:
Just from your last few pages of posts.
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Kinghowie said:
Pick posts out without the context they were written. Yeah ok mate. Most of them posts were in reply to what I believe to be unfounded 'confidence' (if that's the right word you use) . It's been a good summer for us, we're spending money, but some of the posts I've read, we've signed a peak Rooney, the best GK in the League, the best CD in the League, the new Cruyff,a new Spanish superstar and it looks like we're getting one of the best attacking Mids in the League too. And that's just SteveO! I'm a little more realistic than some. I also read that the RS will struggle with the demands of Champs League and that we can take advantage of that, they might, but are people forgetting that we're going to have these demands too, perhaps even more so. I could go through every above post and answer each one individually to give it context, but you obviously have an agenda. So carry it on.
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I didn't look at all of them mate. I saw one which was about Carroll and being a legend for scoring the winner in a cup semi final.

James Vaughan scored the winning penalty (the winner) in a cup semi final and nobody regards him a legend. Nor did we pay 35 million for him.

I don't know if you're a blue or not. I don't mind if you are a red, I have a lot of red mates who are great lads and enjoy talking football with them.

However if you are a blue you seem to make a lot of assertions such as the one above that are ridiculous. You have this falsified view of what Evertonians think and seem to try and set the agenda around it. If you genuinely think scoring a winner in a semi final makes you a legend for our club id politely suggest you consult the history books and speak to other fans who would remind you that's not the case.

If you are a red I'd ask you to stop trying to play out Kopite fantasies of the embittered angry Evertonian not interested in winning things. It's incredibly tiring to have to keep correcting you and is an underhand and deliberate attempt to re-write the record book. Saying you don't like Everton, or that Everton haven't won as many leagues as Liverpool is perfectly reasonable and factually accurate. Making out Everton have no achievements in our history beyond winning semi finals and we worship guys who score winners in semi finals is distasteful and innacurate.

Liverpool have a proud history and rightly cherish it and want to keep that alive. Part of that process is also to be honest about other clubs history and achievements.

On a final point, the case that's being built from Liverpool fans about the bitterness of Evertonians at every turn now feels to me to be a case of projection. The more Liverpool fans I meet the more I realise there is an obsession with Everton, and bizarrely in Kopite thinking for some Carroll would be a legend for scoring the winner past Everton. While its not true of Evertonians I do think for a lot of Kopites it would make him a hero.

I can't get my head around it, growing up outside of the city meant there were always about 20-30 reds for every Evertonian I would meet. I sense though for lads in Liverpool it must be enormously disheartening to have less season ticket holders and less match going supporters than your less illustrious rivals. To be the second team in your own city will understandably eat away at you and you see that in attitudes. You see it from Carragher who said winning at Goodison was as good as it got, especially as the rest of his family are Evertonians.
This must be a common experience for scouse reds and I can see how the bitterness comes.

Either way if you're a blue please educate yourself a little before making wild statements. If you're a red welcome but please stop trying to shift the debate away from the factually accurate terrain and attitudes of Evertonians to where you would like it to be.
 
There is truly nothing more pathetic than some fan of a rival club coming to your message board repeatedly to post anything, let alone having some agenda to attempt to lower morale of your club. Just, wow.

VVD would be lovely, but unless we want to flat out violate FFP and knowing that we are likely to pay 50M for Iceland, think we need to focus on a goal scorer and see where we are if we can sell McCarthy, Niasse, etc.
 

Not sure why people have a problem with this thread. You are right, there is no rumour. Not sure that is a problem. VVD is available and he is effectively striking to get his way and go to Liverpool. At this point Soton are not allowing them to speak to him. Good on them, same as Swansea are doing with Iceland. If a club offers a deal which is acceptable to Soton then things will start to move. If that is Liverpool, Everton, Chelsea City doesn't matter.

Everton do have an issue at Left Centre Back. A long season with a relatively ageing player. VVD would be a great fit for us therefore, cost aside.

We have a locker that Naisse is squatting next to so all good.

Welcome Virgil, Thunderbirds are go .... !
 

Not sure why we want a player who immediately goes into operation shutdown the minute a transfer fee is rumored. I'm sure over at the RS he'll be a proper bust the minute he's not playing in a defensive setup like [insert SOTON defender here].
 
Rook said:
Not sure why we want a player who immediately goes into operation shutdown the minute a transfer fee is rumored. I'm sure over at the RS he'll be a proper bust the minute he's not playing in a defensive setup like [insert SOTON defender here].
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Didn't Sigurdsson cancel on the Swansea pre-season tour when our interest hotted up?
 

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