2021/22 Vitalii Mykolenko

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

The left back we sent out on loan pre season looks better than him .....

Nkounku? Odd one that, never seemed to be quite trusted by a couple of managers.

 

[Joey66]

Nkounku? Odd one that, never seemed to be quite trusted by a couple of managers.

He had an abundance of pace - looked like he could beat a man - so let's send him out on loan ......

 

[Nymzee]

The January trransfer window has weakened us not strengthened us.

Mykolenko is part of that.

Soon changed your tune

 

[Saint Domingo]

It’s just premature judgement. We’ve seen this with players before. Vidic, Evra, Skrtel, Ivanovic, all took their time to adapt to the premier league from a foreign league.

Some of the best full backs in the league didn’t play the same style as Baines and Digne played. You don’t see Azpilicueta beating men for pace and then throwing crosses in, even Ashley Cole didn’t play that way. Zinchenko played left back for City for years without doing this because Pep valued his defensive solidity over Mendy’s attacking out put.

From what I’ve seen Mykolenko is getting fitter, quicker, stronger, and is starting to stop the crosses coming in from his flank. He’s also using the ball sensibly going forward.

People think he should be Digne or Baines. He’s not that type of player and never will be.

 

[davek]

Soon changed your tune

I haven't. I stated clearly that I thought he'd had a solid start to his time here. But it didn't last, and he's looked all at sea since.

We needed good to go in January, not someone to bed in. Same as on the other side with the ridiculous purchase of Patterson.

 

[Zeitgeist]

I haven't. I stated clearly that I thought he'd had a solid start to his time here. But it didn't last, and he's looked all at sea since.

We needed good to go in January, not someone to bed in. Same as on the other side with the ridiculous purchase of Patterson.

Patterson who Lampard stated was going to start but for an unfortunate injury?

 

[davek]

Patterson who Lampard stated was going to start but for an unfortunate injury?

The Patterson who Lampard has stated umpteen times he's one for the future and not now? Yes, him.

 

[Zeitgeist]

The Patterson who Lampard has stated umpteen times he's one for the future and not now? Yes, him.

zzzzzzzzz

 

[davek]

zzzzzzzzz

I understand that you cant gainsay what was pointed out.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

To be fair, there were a few he put in yesterday that had a decent shape about them. This is the first time I've thought that.

My perception of him is that he looks after the ball really well. If Lampard sticks around, this could be something which helps us. Yesterday there was a bit more overlapping than I've seen from him before. I think he needs to develop physically too.

He isn't ready though, that much is clear, but perhaps that should be absolutely obvious given he came here from Ukraine

The crosses thing is what I'm paying more attention to - the Kyiv stats don't suggest he's a volume crosser or one who's massively effective, but then part of that can easily be the way a team plays. See Digne's stats for us this season vs under Ancelotti for example. There's always context, but I'd say at the moment I'm of the opinion that he'll end up a competent full back without ever becoming a dynamic one who offers much in the final 3rd, and we'll probably need that

Good post

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Its pathetic, miserable Da's who do nothing but slam players for no reason.

He was completely fine yesterday, he did nothing at all to suggest he is a bad player like some are making out, I actually thought he made some good tackles and was good in possession

Kenny was FAR worse, he was appalling

This
They have to moan at someone different everyweek, it’s their mission

 

[Nymzee]

I haven't. I stated clearly that I thought he'd had a solid start to his time here. But it didn't last, and he's looked all at sea since.

We needed good to go in January, not someone to bed in. Same as on the other side with the ridiculous purchase of Patterson.

So is a 'fair chance' for Dave 500 mins of football?

He's here now. He'll get a fair chance from me.

 

[Zeitgeist]

I understand that you cant gainsay what was pointed out.

Nope your argument is invalid because you're ignoring Lampard's most recent comments. Boring to debate it with you in all honesty, no offence

 

[Nymzee]

Actually, wait, there's more. Classic Dave lol

Mykolenko is a good player. He'll give us good service. Those that know KNOW.

This lad Mykolenko will strengthen us no problem in defence.

How has anyone written off Mykolenko already?

2021/22 - Lucas Digne

@4737carlin That's this season up against AWB who is considered a good defensive FB Since making his debut, he also ranks below only Aaron Wan-Bissaka and Charlie Taylor, for duels won (59.38%). Only three other defenders at all have attempted more tackles - Pereira, AWB and Azpilicueta...

www.grandoldteam.com

2021/22 - Lucas Digne

Good luck to the lad. sad day, depressing times ?

www.grandoldteam.com

 

[Simon baker]

To be fair, there were a few he put in yesterday that had a decent shape about them. This is the first time I've thought that.

My perception of him is that he looks after the ball really well. If Lampard sticks around, this could be something which helps us. Yesterday there was a bit more overlapping than I've seen from him before. I think he needs to develop physically too.

He isn't ready though, that much is clear, but perhaps that should be absolutely obvious given he came here from Ukraine

The crosses thing is what I'm paying more attention to - the Kyiv stats don't suggest he's a volume crosser or one who's massively effective, but then part of that can easily be the way a team plays. See Digne's stats for us this season vs under Ancelotti for example. There's always context, but I'd say at the moment I'm of the opinion that he'll end up a competent full back without ever becoming a dynamic one who offers much in the final 3rd, and we'll probably need that

Agree with this and that may actually compliment Patterson who I guess will be very attacking and dynamic.

Still beggars belief we spend years buying players for the here and now and then sign two players who appear to be the complete opposite when we needed the here and now.