Has gone backwards for me. Now I don’t know what frame of mind he is with everything going on and that’s completely understandable. But he just lacks confidence, can’t tackle, can’t pass can’t get up the pitch. For the benefit of the team and himself he could do with a few games in the Bench.
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blueblueskies
Player Valuation: £5m
Agree with this. Have a look at Gray just before the goal was scored last night. He actually runs away from Almiron. Offers him little or no protection.
Have to say though he doesn’t offer a lot when we do have the ball right now.
…partnerships in those wide positions is so important & something we still lack.
Remember Pienaar/Baines, Steven/Stevens, PvdH/Sheedy. Players on the same wavelength rather than players working for themselves. I was hoping that would emerge with whoever sat in front of Patterson but it hasn’t yet materialised.
Posters point to CM for lack of creativity but our great sides had Reid/Bracewell, Kendall/Harvey who were not creators/scorers. It’s the wide positions where so much creativity and goal contribution can come from & include FBs in that equation.
perth_blue
Player Valuation: £15m
That combination spoilled us.
Terrarian
Player Valuation: £50m
Solid full back this lad, not sure why as a full back you are judged on wingers attributed these days, give me a solid full back any day over one who gets constantly caught upfield attacking. he is positionally very good and he makes a lot of interceptions from that, I wonder what some of you watch at times saying he's crap.
Where was he for their goal left-hand side of the box missing in action for most parts of the night - can't pass to a blue shirt either, needs a rest IMO
Stevie Nicks Bootleg
Player Valuation: £8m
It's 2022 not 1922. Full backs should have a good all-round game, overlap consistently and not just be defenders- and this has been the case for years. It was even a key foundation in which Alf Ramsey based his tactics on in the 1970 world cup- Keith Newton ended up being England top assister that tournament too. This expanded even further that decade and virtually every decent team ever since has had at least one full back who has been the source of many attacks or creating goals ever since (e.g. Stevens, Hinchcliffe, Baines for us) so it's been seen as an excellent source of creating chances, so hardly a 'new' thing.
Sharpies volley
Player Valuation: £30m
You can go back even further to the Catts teams for us.
Stevie Nicks Bootleg
Player Valuation: £8m
Of course mate, Wilson and Wright...but i mentioned 1970 to include the Newton 'stat' and greater emphasis on Cooper/Newton (and Tommy Wright vs Brazil too) than previously- even though it did happen as you say. That's the thing, when teams like Newcastle last night allow you to have the ball in the 2nd half, that's when reinforcements become so valuable (e.g. full backs joining the attack to stretch the opposition more) but it just didn't happen.
He's not solid defensively though. This is a myth. Teams are targeting him as our weak link. People go past him with ease.
And on his interceptions, how many times did he swing his leg at thin air last night trying to intercept a pass and got nowhere near it. I wonder what you are watching because it can't be the same game i watched.
Terrarian
Player Valuation: £50m
I'm talking as a whole for the season not just one game. There's nothing wrong with him, it's the balance of the side that is out.
How is he supposed to judge when to go forward effectively when you have Grey and Gordon in front of you who won't release it and will 9/10 cut inside and shoot. I still can't imagine how his mindset is, his home is still at war. He's really not a problem.
I agree gray is not good support on that side, maybe the tactics aren't great for him at the moment either. But i just don't think hes premier league quality. He had a few good games last season but has been poor this season and seems to be going backwards.
He needs dropped and Vinagre given a chance. Afterall didn't we want a competitive squad, if so those not meeting standards need to be benched. I struggle to see him being our starting left back beyond this season.
kenada_blue
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Our fullbacks have barely crossed the halfway line in the last few games.
There was half a chance last night when Gray worked into the box and got a cross in....ball landed out to the right in acres of space and you'd expected Coleman to come on and smash it/cross it....he was still on the half way line.
Fair. A couple of long crosses overshot yesterday. Not his usual. Certainly no disgrace last night
Leylo
Player Valuation: £35m
He's crap
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