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Transfer Rumour Wayne Rooney

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What about England were apart from the last few games he's always played in the same role for about 10 years? He's been last

Tough one, but genuinely, there's lots of top players across the world who do it at club level and not international level, and then there's your David Healey's.

Name me 1 player who has regularly played well for England, of any stature? There is something inherently wrong with the whole England set up... Not that I'm complaining, I couldn't care less about England football team.

But honestly, all the "top players" England have had over the last 20 years, Lampard, Gerrard, even going back as far as Shearer, Rooney is the only player who has in any way shape or form carried over any sort of form, as proven that he is now the record goalscorer.
 
Tough one, but genuinely, there's lots of top players across the world who do it at club level and not international level, and then there's your David Healey's.

Name me 1 player who has regularly played well for England, of any stature? There is something inherently wrong with the whole England set up... Not that I'm complaining, I couldn't care less about England football team.

But honestly, all the "top players" England have had over the last 20 years, Lampard, Gerrard, even going back as far as Shearer, Rooney is the only player who has in any way shape or form carried over any sort of form, as proven that he is now the record goalscorer.

This is true. But then you're just ignoring how bad he's been at Club level. People are clutching at straws here but the potato headed negatives outweigh the positives for me on this one. I'll never celebrate or cheer that bell end on
 
With turbulence of this summer transfers I'm expecting bids for Barkley by top four sides if we did lose Ross I would be much more inclined for a Rooney reunion. Nail biting not withstanding I hope the summer tips the scale in our faviour. Our players now are coveted by many I hope we can keep our impact players.
 
With turbulence of this summer transfers I'm expecting bids for Barkley by top four sides if we did lose Ross I would be much more inclined for a Rooney reunion. Nail biting not withstanding I hope the summer tips the scale in our faviour. Our players now are coveted by many I hope we can keep our impact players.


I'll be sick if ross goes. Lukaku is clearly a more important player but the only real emotional link I have with him is that he scores goals. I live Barkley and just want to see him do well for us. Each day without a contract signed though makes me think his heads already been turned
 

You cannot compare an elite goalscorer like Zlatan to Rooney. Zlatan is a once in a generation player. Rooney, far less so. Plus Zlatan is always in phenomenal shape, he looks as strong now as he did ten years ago.

Rooney at his best goal scoring in the last ten years struggles to compete with Zlatan at his worst.

You are right, Zlatan is a proven Goalscorer, a job he has predominantly been able to do over the course of his entire career, as a striker at all of the top teams around Europe.

In the meantime, Rooney is the sort who does the running so those players can score the goals they are capable of.

He has never had that run as the main striker, but has always complimented 1 with is own 10-20 goals per year, until this year.

And if we can have them both, I think Rom would benefit from it too.
 
Think you are doing him a disservice there to be fair. You are right that he was known initially for raw talent, pace and power, but he has always, from the word go, had the brain and the touch to go with it. Comparing him to Barkley for example, he is in a different galaxy as to how he sees and reads the game.

The worst part of Rooneys game, if you can call it that, is that he is completely selfless and for years, has always done what's best for the team. For someone of his natural talent and ability to play the number of positions he has, with the irregularity he has, and without making a big stink about it, for a team who he has only a professional interest in, shows what type of player you will be getting. Granted, he was paid handsomely for it, but there's others who would use his level of power and sway to dictate, and he hasn't.

In terms of the 15 years of top level football he's played, I would say you could ignore the last few years at united, because for one reason or another, he has hardly been at the forefront of anything there. This is largely been down to the political quagmire, based on them giving him a contract they did not want to give, a face saving exercise as they faced losing their star player during an already turbulent transitional period, with 3 new managers, and a fall from grace as their last great team ebbed away.

People talk about the stats, I'd be interested to see how many times Rooney has played, consecutively, from the start, in 1 position (a favoured position), since Fergusons final year. Even in that year, the seeds were already sewn with their huge public bust up.

But all that leads me to say, is that we will hopefully be getting a fresh, newly motivated, passionate Wayne Rooney, signing for us on a free transfer, at 31, still 4 years younger than Ibrahimovic.

Anyone arguing with that deal is simply still bitter over the way he left. Which is fair enough to a point, I can understand people not wanting him back because of that. But not because he's not still a top player, because he is.

And as devastated as I was was when he did leave, I for one cannot wait to see him back in a Blue shirt again.

This is a good well thought out post but I simply cant agree on the last part.

I dont think he is still a top player at all. That's the issue more than anything for me.

I don't like the bloke, I have never hidden that fact and I hate the thought of him putting our shirt on again, it makes me proper angry, but I also understand that football is not really the place for any sense of morals etc.

I just think his marketing potential is practically zero (for reasons I have mentioned before and that should never be the reason why we sign someone anyway, certainly not on 150k a week!) and his ability is massively diminished these days. Combine that with the amount of time he has been playing and the divisiveness/pressure to perform he would cause I just think its asking for trouble.

I put him in the same category as Bastien Schweinstiger. Same age, same club, same position in their careers. One is trundling off to MLS as he cant cut it anymore, the other we are about to make our highest paid player ever. I think its madness. But as with all these things, time will tell.
 
The usual illogical argument.

Keane was 34/35 when he went to Celtic and sccholes was 38/39 when he retired and turned down Oldham.

The board with ambition & money and the manager with a plan have made it clear they want him.

Rooney has been playing none stop since he was 16. His condition is probably more akin to a player of 35-36 years old. He has a lot of mileage on the clock.

I don't really get the manager wanting him thing as a reason to think its a good signing as lets be honest we only say that if we like said manager at the time. They are human like all of us.

If Martinez and Kenwright were chasing him everybody would be fuming.
 
Anyone thinking he's got marketing value is barmy. Once he leaves utd he means nothing to any of his world wide fan Base and he would probably sell less shirts than lukaku/Barkley etc just through the sheer divisiveness signing him would have on our fans.
 
Rooney has been playing none stop since he was 16. His condition is probably more akin to a player of 35-36 years old. He has a lot of mileage on the clock.

I don't really get the manager wanting him thing as a reason to think its a good signing as lets be honest we only say that if we like said manager at the time. They are human like all of us.

If Martinez and Kenwright were chasing him everybody would be fuming.
When people say age is a number, it's true. He's 31 and is probably nowhere near as fit as our oldest first teamer
 

This is a good well thought out post but I simply cant agree on the last part.

I dont think he is still a top player at all. That's the issue more than anything for me.

I don't like the bloke, I have never hidden that fact and I hate the thought of him putting our shirt on again, it makes me proper angry, but I also understand that football is not really the place for any sense of morals etc.

I just think his marketing potential is practically zero (for reasons I have mentioned before and that should never be the reason why we sign someone anyway, certainly not on 150k a week!) and his ability is massively diminished these days. Combine that with the amount of time he has been playing and the divisiveness/pressure to perform he would cause I just think its asking for trouble.

I put him in the same category as Bastien Schweinstiger. Same age, same club, same position in their careers. One is trundling off to MLS as he cant cut it anymore, the other we are about to make our highest paid player ever. I think its madness. But as with all these things, time will tell.
Devils advocate here. If he played as a backup to Rom, he couldn't be any worse than the options we currently have at striker could he? If he accepted the role of waterboy/backup on 75,000K a week, I'd gladly have him. Having said that, I really don't want his wages, and I really don't want him stealing time from the young players we have coming into the team. No thanks
 
Devils advocate here. If he played as a backup to Rom, he couldn't be any worse than the options we currently have at striker could he? If he accepted the role of waterboy/backup on 75,000K a week, I'd gladly have him. Having said that, I really don't want his wages, and I really don't want him stealing time from the young players we have coming into the team. No thanks

True. Sadly that wont happen though.

There are also a lot more cheaper options who wouldn't be any worse than our current options out there...
 
Anyone thinking he's got marketing value is barmy. Once he leaves utd he means nothing to any of his world wide fan Base and he would probably sell less shirts than lukaku/Barkley etc just through the sheer divisiveness signing him would have on our fans.

Doesn't matter even if he does sell loads of shirts. We get the same money back off Kitbag regardless.
 

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