Osamabindiesel
Player Valuation: £70m
If we pay any money, there will be hell toupe
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If we pay any money, there will be hell toupe
He could well be as you say. I have no way of being right in my opinion so there is the chance he is finished so to speak at this end and needs to chase the money instead.We need proven winners on the pitch though, and he doesn't have the ability to get in to the side. That's the big issue with him, he's not good enough and we'll just end up with another over-paid has been, blocking the path of younger players with more potential. We should be past that as a club now.
He's also not as model professional. By all accounts he hasn't looked after his body, and drinking, smoking etc. Are these really the examples we want to parade to the younger lads?
People put too much stock in this mythical 'he'll be great in the dressing room' these days. Just because someone is older doesn't mean they're going to be a positive influence. I remember reading Jimmy Greaves' book, and when he was at West Ham I think it was, and all he did was complain about the other players and go around with a bad attitude shouting at them 'to feet, to feet' because he no longer had the pace or movement he once had and his frustration spilled over in to his relationship with other players. There are loads of stories about older players like that.
If he does come I hope I'm wrong and he has a great season, but it just seems like a massive step backwards.
Nope - it's desperation to get rid.
They don't want a player, a club captain like him moping around, never mind paying the full wage to do just that.
It's exactly why Gary Neville said this.
Man Utd are desperate to get shut, and for good reason.
If I had as much passion for Everton as the traitor, I'd have jibbed us off 30 years ago and gone to support Chelski or ManU.He could well be as you say. I have no way of being right in my opinion so there is the chance he is finished so to speak at this end and needs to chase the money instead.
It's been said by some in this thread but what stands out for me more than anything else is the passion and drive he would have to win something with everton. He is a blue and long after he retires he will still be a blue. But take away all the United medals he has, how much would a medal with Everton mean to him? How hard do you think he would fight to achieve that? Sometimes his bad attitude in the example you give isn't stinking the place out but would be frustration of why his team mates aren't raising their level to what he expects. Much like Neville, he knew the standard we needed to be at even if he wasn't himself.
We won't know until/if he came here and I could well be wrong in my way of thinking. Just don't rule out the lads passion and think if how much you love our club, and put it into the head of someone who has been successful and has now got the chance to do it with his club. Remember he will want to be the dad who lifted the league/cup with the team his kids are supporting.
If I had as much passion for Everton as the traitor, I'd have jibbed us off 30 years ago and gone to support Chelski or ManU.
That's the spirit.If I had as much passion for Everton as the traitor, I'd have jibbed us off 30 years ago and gone to support Chelski or ManU.
...And if he gets chunkier, we can lie him sideways across the goalmouth.A veteran player who played for one of the best managers ever. Was world class and someone to work with the very young promising squad we currently have. a loan with united covering some of his wages has zero downside.
I'm not keen on Wayne Rooney returning I have to tell you.
What are your thoughts?