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We need to talk about England fans.

Should England be banned from a tournament or two?

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emir said:
But that doesn't answer the question. Why don't FA break away from UEFA and represent the public's values instead? Israel broke away from AFC for example.
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Where are you getting that English people don’t class themselves as European? The FA don’t have anything to do with government decisions, they will only leave UEFA if requested or they choose to
 
BlueStevie35 said:
Where are you getting that English people don’t class themselves as European? The FA don’t have anything to do with government decisions, they will only leave UEFA if requested or they choose to
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Maybe I'm wrong actually so I could be misinformed but from my knowledge, English people don't really identify as "European" but see themselves closer with countries like Australia, NZ, Canada etc. Again, my post has nothing to do with Brexit.
 
chicoazul said:
There’s a discussion going on in the Euro Knockout thread but that will close and this is a wider, long standing issue.

During this tournament we’ve witnessed their own players being booed for taking a knee, others national anthems roundly booed, ticket gates being stormed, scores of anti social behaviour committed in this own home city and so much racial abuse handed to their own and others.

As their detractors will point off this is not one off, it’s a continual theme and wider scale than pretty much anyone else so whataboutism simply doesn’t work. As it’s consistent, widespread and seemingly embarrassing to other England fans we can only assume the decent fans must be in the minority and unable to look after their own.

Measures need to be taken to change the direction and send a clear message this behaviour will not be tolerated again. Perhaps a ban from a tournament or two may give people some thinking time and encourage other fans to finally own the problem.
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It’s London and cockneys. @Bruce Wayne and his English nationalist mates have a lot to answer for……
 
Paris said:
Obviously less said about the significant minority of England fans the better but as much as last night hurts I’ll always be grateful to this group of England players for making me be a passionate supporter of my national team again. I’ve never felt so connected to an England side in my life and for the first time in my life, I feel that there’s an England side who if I was good enough, I’d have no hesitation in disclosing my sexuality to.

Obviously members with skulls the size of those Easter Island heads won’t understand that, hiding under a pretence of ‘scouse not English’ totally forgetting that the massive racist abuse of opposition players at Goodison is still in living memory.
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Bandwagon guilt or misplaced Toryism. You dear reader or the judge.
 

emir said:
English people don't even see themselves as "European", so why do they participate in the "Euros"? English people see England being closer with Australia, NZ, Canada etc so why don't England make their own tournament with those countries instead?
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We don't want to have anything to do with them mate when it comes to football. Rugby and cricket is more than enough.
 
chicoazul said:
There’s a discussion going on in the Euro Knockout thread but that will close and this is a wider, long standing issue.

During this tournament we’ve witnessed their own players being booed for taking a knee, others national anthems roundly booed, ticket gates being stormed, scores of anti social behaviour committed in this own home city and so much racial abuse handed to their own and others.

As their detractors will point off this is not one off, it’s a continual theme and wider scale than pretty much anyone else so whataboutism simply doesn’t work. As it’s consistent, widespread and seemingly embarrassing to other England fans we can only assume the decent fans must be in the minority and unable to look after their own.

Measures need to be taken to change the direction and send a clear message this behaviour will not be tolerated again. Perhaps a ban from a tournament or two may give people some thinking time and encourage other fans to finally own the problem.
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Its scumming home!
No need to ban them. They will not attend games weighted down in the North Sea. Round them up, starting in Essex and Stoke
 

emir said:
English people don't even see themselves as "European", so why do they participate in the "Euros"? English people see England being closer with Australia, NZ, Canada etc so why don't England make their own tournament with those countries instead?
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I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.


Also, what is "lemo" gents?
 
Thomasc said:
The absolute scum of Europe.
1. England fans
2. Liverpool fans

the end.
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Are you oblivious to the ultra right wing supporters from the eastern bloc, we aren't the only ones by a long shot just more media coverage. Italian fans are no saints either. It is awful and not fair for the players.
 
perth_blue said:
Also, what is "lemo" gents
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