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I can see a draw here and that wouldn't be an awful result, but I've bet on 2-1 because I'm feeling oddly optimistic. They will be very tough to break down, so we have to score first and force their hand.
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When can you have more than than 100% of the electorate vote in a sampling.....................doesn't this add up to 100.2%...........fix I tell you a bloody fix..............call out the guard call out the guard
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Everton
174 vote(s)
82.5%
WBA
13 vote(s)
6.2%
Cheese on wedding cake
24 vote(s)
11.4%
1-1 draw written all over it this one.
I'll be the old git peering down from Row QQ trying to see above the tall buggers in the two rows below me.
bit of lube sir?......I get the horrible feeling we will be dry bummed tonight.
why have people liked this post - it's terrible
1) would you say top 4 teams would be happy with 5 points from soton, swansea and spurs away with no goals conceded? because i would. you can't just pick fixtures for your argument.
2) massive pressure does not come 8 games into a season, unless it's a derby, in which case it's irrelevant what are results are before.
3) mid-table a lot of the time? we've been up at the top 6 most of the season - not that positions matter at this stage.
4) we did not play well enough to beat spurs
5) a statement of our intent for top 4 will come next month with our games, not by beating teams you'd expect us to do well against
6) there's no way we should be within the top 2 given our fixture list - that's bonkers talk
7) why are you speaking as if we've already draw to WBA regarding to who we're below (the table is irrelevant at this stage really) ...who knows, we might just sneak a defeat
If Lukaku plays we're not winning this one. If he's dropped then there's a good chance of nicking it.
2:1 too us
is that eleven thenGot a feeling its gonna be one one
Isn't your argument a touch underminded by City getting thumped away at Spurs and United being beaten at the Liberty stadium yet those teams sit second and first in the table?This is ridiculous.
1) 'You can't just pick your fixtures for your argument'. You've then just picked three decent results we've had. Of course the top 4 would be ok with those results, in the same way they would not be ok with our results v Watford City at home and Swansea away. They would not be ok with our inconsistency and tendency over the last few seasons to draw too many games.
2) depends how you define massive pressure. Davek was talking about drawing to WBA a result that would leave us behind Rodgers' Liverpool a manager currently under huge pressure despite comprehensively out performing Martinez over the last 2 seasons. Yes he has had money and with that comes expectation but last time I looked our motto was Nil Satis. Draw to WBA then we'd have to beat Liverpool to stop them going 4 ahead of us. This is one of the prem's poorest Liverpool sides as well.
3) I'm talking about historically being mid table which for me is outside of the top 4 where we have resided a lot of the time. It's great being fifth but it wasn't good enough for Moyes and I don't see how we improve as a club if we don't aim higher.
4) exactly right, Spurs were woeful yet we just didn't even turn up for the third season in a row under Martinez at WHL. We set out for a 0-0 and got it, another day we lose 4-0 the amount of chances we conceded. That is not top 4 behaviour.
5) a statement for intent for the top 4 is not once s season home wins v United or Chelsea. It's beating poor sides home and away when the opportunity presents. We were good enough to beat Watford Swansea and Spurs but bottled it with non performances in two and cowardly finishing in the the other. Not top 4 behaviour.
6) we could easily be in the top given our fixtures. 6 extra points from the 3 winnable games I just mentioned puts us there easily with a game in hand. It's that sort of mentality exactly which stops us doing anything of note ever. 'Oh the fixture list looks tough, 6th would be ok' 'oh the top 4 are still left in the cup we won't win it'. Absolute utter rubbish. Why bother turning up at all?
7) daveks post said a draw to WBA was s good result, I was arguing why it's not. This is a team with quality all over the pitch yet we sleep walk ourselves into mid table because our attitude is rubbish. We have a great defence and a lot of firepower. We show that when we turn over top teams with ease at Goodison. Then a poor team like Watford roll up and we don't bother turning up.
We are supposedly in good form right now and relatively injury free. The top 6 are supposedly creaking. If we come out of this spell still behind them in the table what happens when our form dips and we get injuries and those sides suddenly hit form? We should have rammed home the advantage even with our tough fixture list because easy sides at home are not bankers under Martinez.
If people are happy with a season of 7/8th then fine but Moyes was churning that out with front lines of Kilbane Bent Osman Beattie McFadden. Why is it unreasonable to expect Lukaku Barkley Mirallas Deulofeu Stones and McCarthy to produce better?
We are under performing end of. Like I said I hope Martinez puts us on a long winning run but to do that you have to be beating WBA. If you're happy with mid table as long as the football has some nice passing then you've lost the plot.