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I’ll leave you two to slug it out, but I have to agree that those three are brilliant tracks to use as an example.

Anyway, please do carry on knocking lumps out of each other lol

It's a good discussion. A couple that he just put up were superb. I'm happy to go in different musical directions anytime.

I used to surprise my son when he was in his teens (1990s) when he would play me some stuff of his generation, and I'd say, hang on a minute, listen to this (Byrds, Moby Grape, etc) and he'd say 'Sh1t, it's all there already, back then'. And we'd laugh about it! As Timothy Leary once said: 'All part of the future, passed on from the past.'
 
The first two - I liked them so much that I pulled them up on youtube and listen to both tracks fully.

The second two, nah, not so much.

With regard to the first two, and the overdriven guitar(s), here's an example of the kind of rock that does it for me.


And here's another that can be considered 'outside of my generation', but this song just rocks!

Good to know you liked the first 2, most of what I post in here is music of that type.

Was it a vocal thing for the last 2?

I know harsh vocals are a real barrier for people. Always interests me how people react to a vocalist who isn't traditional.

Deafheaven are a Blackgaze band, a combination of black metal and shoegaze which produces a really luscious guitar tone mixed with the black metal vocal and drums. Its long that song but when you get to the part where the lead guitar really comes in its really beautiful.

Code Orange are, at their roots, a hardcore band who draw influence from industrial music, mainly Nine Inch Nails. Their music is designed to be challenging. Funnily enough though they have a side project with nearly the entire band being the same which sounds like the polar opposite to Code Orange.

 
It's a good discussion. A couple that he just put up were superb. I'm happy to go in different musical directions anytime.

I used to surprise my son when he was in his teens (1990s) when he would play me some stuff of his generation, and I'd say, hang on a minute, listen to this (Byrds, Moby Grape, etc) and he'd say 'Sh1t, it's all there already, back then'. And we'd laugh about it! As Timothy Leary once said: 'All part of the future, passed on from the past.'

Same here mate, I was brought up with many musical influences due to my mum - the Beatles, George Harrison, John Lennon, Little Richard, Elvis and even proper soul like Dionne Warwick and Randy Crawford.

I then developed my own tastes in early teens, but still retained some of the musical influences from mum, particularly the likes of Dionne Warwick and Randy Crawford - which are the polar opposite of everything else that I listen too - rock, indie, electro etc
 
Same here mate, I was brought up with many musical influences due to my mum - the Beatles, George Harrison, John Lennon, Little Richard, Elvis and even proper soul like Dionne Warwick and Randy Crawford.

I then developed my own tastes in early teens, but still retained some of the musical influences from mum, particularly the likes of Dionne Warwick and Randy Crawford - which are the polar opposite of everything else that I listen too - rock, indie, electro etc
I can't read the word "electro" without picturing that scene from Shaun of the Dead when Shaun and Ed get home plastered and start blasting the tunes.

"Its Electro, prick."
 



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