Arteta2391
Player Valuation: £30m
when he left
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davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Martinez had to go because his relationship with the players was broken. He could have been Alex Ferguson and Pep Guardiola rolled into one. But when a team down tools it doesn't matter. Significant numbers of those players (and significant senior individuals amongst them) did not wish to play his football anymore. They didn't have the mental courage to stand up to criticism from the terraces over results and the easier option for them was to just collapse and end it all.
It's not that they weren't good enough to play good winning football, they proved they were. But when it called for character and bottle to come through a crises they didn't have it. Martinez WAS responsible for that, btw, I dont spare him in that analysis, because he surrounded himself with mentally weak players and failed to root out those lacking character.
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ianefc
Player Valuation: £70m
He went because he's not a good football manager, with a proven inability to get a team to defend. Nothing more nothing less, if the players did drop off then it's because they realised it too, whether we like that or not it all boils down to Martinez being nowhere near PL standard.
Awaits a mention of 72pts
Simple as that. If he were good enough, why would they down tools? If training seemed on point, why would they down tools? If the players believed they could hold onto leads, why would they down tools? If they trusted his ability to strengthen the squad, why would they down tools? You can't have it both ways.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Lol.
Our record PL points gatherer and he's 'not PL standard'.
You couldn't make that assessment up...and yes, I saw your white text.
ianefc
Player Valuation: £70m
hes not, why did no teams from the top 2 tiers take him? The teams he's managed in the PL have gotten worse than what he took over. You're wrong. I'm not arsed though, off to the match now to support the lads, you keep on bitchin about everything non-Martinez, enjoy your night.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
He had to settle for Belgium, I suppose. Ahh well.
How could they have come through a crisis that started because every manager had seen through Roberto's never changing formation or tactics? I don't excuse any player for downing tools, and it did happen, but it's too easy to put it into the weak character category. That was a factor granted but not the full picture.
Gladystweet
Player Valuation: £50m
I know you were one of his staunchest fans Dave but you've hit the nail firmly on the head there. I always thought it was down to bottle. Like you say, he didn't have the staff but I also believe he was lacking in the bottle department as well.
Dubai Blue
Player Valuation: £8m
Loved the moment between him and Rom vs. Arsenal
Wolfsburg.
We had a torrid start to the season and I wasn't overly confident going into the match.
We gave a counter attacking masterclass in the first half and a defensive one for the second. Took a moment of brilliance from Rodriguez to even get on the score sheet. Thought that was our turnaround moment...
We had a torrid start to the season and I wasn't overly confident going into the match.
We gave a counter attacking masterclass in the first half and a defensive one for the second. Took a moment of brilliance from Rodriguez to even get on the score sheet. Thought that was our turnaround moment...
Verbal Kint
Player Valuation: £35m
Arsenal 1-1 away in his first season. A proper football match, don't think I've seen a better technical game in the premiership since. Full of hope after that I was skeptical of Martinez before but felt we were on the right path after this game. Should have learned to thrust my gut.
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