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A ground is what you make it though isn't it? I mean architecturally Goodison was a bit of a poo hole at the end but it could still create a good atmosphere and that was largely down to the history and the fans.

Don't expect the new stadium to replicate that immediately because it will be creating its own history, hopefully as glorious as that seen at Goodison.
 
Free tickets for the bandwagon - apply here.

The votes been done, lets get the [Poor language removed] over it and concentrate on us being ace again.

At least come out with something more original that 'its out the city'. Its [Poor language removed] not.
 
I kinda agree but i dont want our ground to end up like the Reebok or something like that.

Look at our concept's. Do they look anything like the Reebok? No, the stands are nice and close to the pitch, steep, and will be quite possibly intimidating. I am just imagining our mid-week Euro games being played there at night adding to the intimidation.
 

Rob I will go to Kirkby but I think its a big mistake too much trust in what Kenwright says for me hes lied before why not again but that's over we lost the vote its this three mile thing .my first reaction to Kirkby was [Poor language removed] them I wont go but as Ive been going since 1958 I know I would weaken ,but as I go to all home games and roughly 10-12 away games do you really think its about 3 miles sorry mate but that's a stupid remark I will hazard a guess that me and my old codgers have travelled a lot more than you over the years its not travelling to cup finals ect I mean going to some drab mid week game miles away not when the team are doing well but when theres a knot in your guts trying to get enough points to stay up I have the utmost respect for our younger fans who despite never seeing us win anything are there week in week out but over this they are wrong no one minds the three miles its principles and if they decide that's their lot who are any of us to question that,as far as I know no ones demanding that we boycott Kirkby just there own personal choice not to go,so please call them wrong or what ever but dont bring the rubbish about three miles up

its not the first time we have moved though is it, ok its the first time in many many years, but goodison hasn't been our home since day one has it...

we move when we have to and everytime we move we move out of the city boundries, and so again we do the same.

Give me one good reason that any Evertonian would stop going to the game because the stadium is moving to kirkby?
 
Just when you think its safe to turn on the computer screen and not hear anything about this Stadium bullshit and another arguement pops up about it. TBH, Its getting beyond a joke we've voted BK is looking into moving to kirkby like it or lump it the Majority of Everton fans want the move to Kirkby to better the club can we please drop it already.


Not trying to offend anyone with this statement I'm of the standpoint its done and dusted over with lets see what happens.....Until then lets talk about the team or something ANY but the stadium debate...its going to drive me mad.
I honestly dont think the majority of fans want the move but the majority of those eligable to vote do ,but I agree its time to move on and see what the future holds,the sadist thing about this is the bitter split of our fans although we disagree we all want what we think is best for the club not the pubs or local chippy to be honest since drink driving laws I head for my local
 
When people talk about Tesco and the development, and the rest, it feels alot to me like it does run deeper.

Its not just about a team, or a stadium, it seems to be like a way of life. Its the people who live in the shadow of the ground, and have done so their whole lives. Its people who retain a proud sense of ownership. Who'll never move out of the area, and who's kids, and their kids will do the same.

The way of life of these people is threatened. Threatened not by fear of anything other than unfamiliarity.

One thing i found in England, is that people wont travel anywhere. Theyve grown up with everything right there and no need to go anywhere else. Its safe.

Its strange for an outsider to see the change your going through, because In Sydney and most of Australia, weve already been through this kind of change.

The concept of the Mall was pioneered in the states, but it turns out that an Aussie called Frank Lowy decided in the 60's, that this would be the way to go. So, everything you could need in one massive complex. It killed the 'high street' and the Corner shop in most suburbs. Now the corner shop is a 7/11, shell or ampol or BP service station. Now the high street is only for small suburbs without a 'mall'. I can feel you are going through this kind of change.

Here we have mega malls, Parramatta, Burwood, Chatswood, Hornsby and every day theres another one being built. The only similar thing I saw in England (in the northwest) was the shooping centre in Manchester. Its got the different areas for southern style, or the titanic food court. There are heaps of those in Sydney.

And the really crazy thing is, they will build a giant mega mall, and guaranteed its packed. And these things are massive. Its the way that things will go. On the Central coast an hour north of sydney, they built two. Erina fair, which seriously is GINORMOUS and Westfield Tuggerah, which is also blooody huuuge. The impact was felt in Gosford, Woy Woy and Wyong, whos empty centres are only just recovering. People here are more into new stuff. Who wanted to see the Olympics at 20 year old Aussie Stadium? No-one, so they built a whole new olympic suburb, complete with town aptly called Newington, All different stadiums, parks, the works.

I think in a few years, when hopefully this stadium goes ahead, and people look back on the fervent opposition to this development, will realise how well it will turn out. How could we have lived without this before? They will say.

Corperate branding is essential for big business to survive. Think about it, we could make the biggest headquarters for Everton, have a superstore there, a hotel, heaps and heaps of cheap parking, and pub section designed with various types of pubs, movie theatres, ice rinks, muliptle sporting teams like basketball and rugby. I think diversifying, and corperate branding have the ability launch our club into the big club land again.

Kenright and the other guy will be remembered as visionaries in my books, its just a pity that we couldnt have initiated this 15 years ago.

Imagine where we'd be if we have done this earlier. We would never have entertained parting with the likes of Rooney.

Just my two cents
 
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Kenright and the other guy will be remembered as visionaries in my books,

Even if you can't remember him now!?! :P

Seriously tho, good post. Personally i don't like the concept of a "pub section....", that would seem so fake. I'd prefer that Tesco/EFC would just provide the stadium/superstore and let the draw of that bring other ppl in who would build the pubs/eateries etc. That would be much more natural and help th e local community more.
 
Im from Kirkby but Im gutted were leaving Goodison as thats where I go for the match and bevvying before the game and the walk up is important to me, as is all the sound people who operate businesses there. Thats who I feel sorry for.

No doubt the club have put some spin on things, as any business would but I want to be playing at a stadium without obstructed views, with decent facilities and all that. If we could redevelop Goodison that would be my choice but thats not on the cards so move it must be.

Doesnt mean that my opinion is right, thats just what I reckon.
 

Im from Kirkby but Im gutted were leaving Goodison as thats where I go for the match and bevvying before the game and the walk up is important to me, as is all the sound people who operate businesses there. Thats who I feel sorry for.

No doubt the club have put some spin on things, as any business would but I want to be playing at a stadium without obstructed views, with decent facilities and all that. If we could redevelop Goodison that would be my choice but thats not on the cards so move it must be.

Doesnt mean that my opinion is right, thats just what I reckon.

Fifty years of GP, I know it is now past its sell by date, everyone agrees with that. Why do some think the board are just abandoning the grand old girl is pure nonsense, Billy Kenwright will have tears in his eyes, as I will in mine when that theatre of dreams comes down FACT! Being responsible for the long term welfare of all matters EFC, they allowed a vote, they didn't have to, they allowed a vote because it was a contentious issue, the vote supported their decision, swallow the pill and move on, its called democracy.
 
Are we moving grounds. [Poor language removed]. no one tells me anything. :lol: :lol: ;) ;)


Also, is goodison on wheels. How the [Poor language removed] can we move it. hahahahahahaha


COYB. I will travel to the ends of the earth to watch my boys.

*sings to the tune of "Only when I laugh"

I'm toffee till I die
I'm toffee till I die
I know I am,
I'm sure I am
I'm toffee till I die
 
God Help Us

I cannot believe that people are not asking what will we get for £50m.
If anyone thinks that it will be a stadium to be proud of - get real.
Go and look at the tin shed that Tesco built for Warrington Wolves.
That cost £30 million 4/5 years ago.
It is not the move to Kirkby it is that this is not the right move for Everton Football Club, finally, ask yourself why are Tottenham not considering moving to a new ground on a retail park?
They are spending the money on redeveloping White Heart Lane. For the £50 Mill it will cost us to go to Kirkby we could buy half of Walton and still have change to develop Goodison.
All you fans who live abroard and call us fools for not voting yes, ah well whats the point.
 
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All you fans who live abroard and call us fools for not voting yes, ah well whats the point.

On one thing I agree with you: "what is the point?"

You think because we live abroad we are somehow worth less than you. Well hey, genius, we didn't get to vote, even though we love this club.

You did.

And, guess what, most of the people who did vote didn't agree with you.

But don't let a petty detail like that get in the way of the bedtime stories that you believe in.
 

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