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The point I am trying to make is that as you are away from the centre of things you have been subjected to the propoganda of BK and KW and cannot see first hand what a move to Kirkby will mean, although it is only 4 miles from Goodison it is 4 miles in the wrong direction.
The club have spouted about catchement areas and new potential fans sorry my freinds but that is not going to happen, and when in years to come people support the city of their birth Kenwright will be well gone but Everton will still be left with a white elephant in Kirkby.
Middlesborough is a hotbed of football I remember going to Ayresome Parkand it was packed out, Look at the figures for the Riverside now they can't pay their fans to go. But this is only my opinion and from other forums if the Vote had given another option whatever that may have been then you can put money on the fact that a move to the Tescobowl would have been massively rejected.
 
i know boro well as i worked up there during my sandwich year at uni. the riverside is well liked by the locals it just seems to be other people who dislike it.at the time they were averaging 34 thousand in the 98-99 seaon which was a full house for them. they are in agreement that the problem is that the stadium is just too big. they feel a 26 thousand capacity would have suited their needs better. remember middlesbrough is not a city. it's only a town.

so perhaps we need to look at our own stadium. is 55,000 too big for everton. even the kings dock was going to be that size. if we dont think we can fill it perhaps we should build a 45,000 seater stadium.

i'm not for kirkby either but don't call it the tesco bowl. one reason being tesco will not have naming rights and secondly it will comprise of four seperate stand alone double tier grandstands. let's try to keep this debate to the facts.
 
Gday Sween, Im an out of towner, so my vote and opinion dont really count.

Ive never even been to Goodison Park.

I love the blues just as much as you do. Thats a scary thought for someone who's never even been there.

Can you explain your point? You think Kirby will be a bad thing, but like the role playing games we used to play in school, imagine Im a Australian, who's never been to Liverpool, and explain to me what the bad thing is? You mention Middlesborough - but in reality, there a [Poor language removed] team who no one would want to watch play. Would you?
 
The point I am trying to make is that as you are away from the centre of things you have been subjected to the propoganda of BK and KW.

And we've been subjected to an equal or larger amount of propaganda by KEIOC, LCC and other "no Kirkby" proclaimers that wanted us to stay put. To suggest that just because we don't live in Liverpool or the closest vicinity we've got no brains and swallow everything we're told by the board is ridiculous and low.

I've read accounts from both sides, I've followed any potential move since years before Kings Dock.. I've seen a number of plans for a move being blocked by the LCC either out right or their experts. I've seen them say no to us and give the same ground to LFC afterwards.

I wasn't entitled to vote, but I thought the best way forward for Everton FC was this move. You didn't and so did a lot of other voters, and non-voters too. But the ballot showed a majority of yes votes so why can't you get behind the club, even if they did a thing you didn't approve of?
 

i know boro well as i worked up there during my sandwich year at uni. the riverside is well liked by the locals it just seems to be other people who dislike it.at the time they were averaging 34 thousand in the 98-99 seaon which was a full house for them. they are in agreement that the problem is that the stadium is just too big. they feel a 26 thousand capacity would have suited their needs better. remember middlesbrough is not a city. it's only a town.

so perhaps we need to look at our own stadium. is 55,000 too big for everton. even the kings dock was going to be that size. if we dont think we can fill it perhaps we should build a 45,000 seater stadium.

i'm not for kirkby either but don't call it the tesco bowl. one reason being tesco will not have naming rights and secondly it will comprise of four seperate stand alone double tier grandstands. let's try to keep this debate to the facts.

fully appreciate what your saying,

how many train stops between limestreet and kirkby? i dont know, i have never travelled it.

if travel is done right and it takes 10 minutes to get from the city centre to the new ground the usuals wont have an issue (match day busses are a nightmare, takes ages because they zigzag their way to goodison)

will the complex in kirkby have a load of boozers and cafes/restaurants? is the design to get people to kirkby and keep them there or get people in for the game and then out again?

with regards capacity, i reckon we could fill 70k if it was done right, simply make every ticket £10 and its a bargain. currently going to the game is not a cheap day out, cut ticket costs and suddenly the game is more accessible.

the biggest stand at the new ground should be the family area.

corporate boxes, are we actually getting forty and do we think we can sell them? are we still going to have lounges and player boxes?
 
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