Where do you think Everton are heading from here ?

[johnjoeefc]

I think theres an opportunity for a lot of clubs to come together and change the whole dynamics of English/ British football. As it is at the moment and with new ffp rules coming into place soon. We are going to see the same 6 clubs for decades minimum controlling the English game. And in doing so all other clubs will suffer and these other clubs need to take a stand and seriously consider breaking away.

It will be an idea which will be costly in the short term. But in the long term for a lot of reasons it will be massively beneficial.

Look at the top 6 positions in the league table. It's a joke how much power these clubs have and that the rules are being changed more and more to keep it that way and people are just oblivious to it.

 

[brieverton]

We always have hope if we stay up. If not then its hard to retain any optimism.

As before things hinge on recruitment, at all levels. We will just pile failure upon failure if we continue to recruit so disastrously.

If we can start to get that right, then the immediate road to becoming mid-table cannon fodder isn't a huge jump.

The best scenario I can think of is that we could avoid relegation this year, stabilise and not be in permanent crisis next, and then slowly build on that whilst continuing to recruit well and start to look up rather than down.

Promoted sides have gained European football in short order, outside the clutch of elite to good and well-managed clubs, the rest is all a bit meh. Just that we got dragged in this year. We have a penchant for going on winless streaks coupled with too much change and no period of stability, and this has extended and confidence shot.

Buy ourselves some stability and another big if, the stadium continues to take shape before our eyes and we can have a much transformed situation. The stadium is far from a panacea for our problems but its vital for morale and club development.

We will have to operate within tight budgets so Kevin Thelwell will be a critical figure but after so much waste, I'm not put off by that prospect. It would be great to simply be regarded as a well-run club again, operating within our means.

A lot of ifs and maybes there, the imperative being we are still a PL club next season. I do not want to comprehend what might happen if not. It's the footballing equivalent of nuclear winter for us.

 

[Joey66]

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

We stink of Villa a few seasons ago. I know there's a train of thought along the lines of 'they're back and doing okay now', but honestly, it ain't a good idea. Know enough Villa fans to get a good sense of how grim it all was.

Worse we could do what Wolves and Sunderland have done. Continued the comedy appointments and recruitment before dropping into league 1.

It's not that hard to imagine under Moshiri.

I don't know if we go down this season, but I am ambivalent because, regardless, we will go down the following season - our transfer windows are getting worse under Moshiri. Established premier league teams rarely flame out and go down, circling the drain seems to be the norm.

However, nothing about the club's executives suggests they will be able to reverse the decline, I can see us becoming something like Sheffield Wednesday or Stoke a sleeping giant that throws out occasional cup upsets and gets picked off in the playoffs by leaner, better run clubs.

Moshiri, the entire board need replacing, but I think we'll have several years of diminished status before that happens.

 

[Bohemian Toffee]

We stink of Villa a few seasons ago. I know there's a train of thought along the lines of 'they're back and doing okay now', but honestly, it ain't a good idea. Know enough Villa fans to get a good sense of how grim it all was.

Worse we could do what Wolves and Sunderland have done. Continued the comedy appointments and recruitment before dropping into league 1.

It's not that hard to imagine under Moshiri.

I was thinking about Stoke today, went down, what 2019? Done close to 200m and look closer to league one than coming up.

Cautionary tales all over the place, we'll be the greatest of them all. Replace doing a Leeds with doing an Everton.

 

[Nyhus]

If we go down, i think we will stay down.

 

[matty1878]

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this IF we go down

 

[Voodoo Billy]

My worry is that Moshie and the board didn't learn from the experience of the season when they felt they had to get Rotund Samuel in to steady the ship. That should have set all the alarm bells ringing and forced them to re-evaluate the way the club was going. They didn't and here we are today.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

If we stay up?
More of the last 20+ years ,more lows and let downs.
Down?
We ain't going down.

 

[Shevin Keedy]

My worry is that Moshie and the board didn't learn from the experience of the season when they felt they had to get Rotund Samuel in to steady the ship. That should have set all the alarm bells ringing and forced them to re-evaluate the way the club was going. They didn't and here we are today.

That is quite a good point; if anything he and his gremlin henchman were a last resort (regardless of where we eventually finished) and more should have been done to change things following that season's end.

 

[Bluebonic]

Fist.


Oblivion

Fist oblivion? My fave porn film that!

 

[chippy1722]

10-12th next season as a few other teams are improving.
All depends on if we can spend in the summer.
Hopefully it’s a reality check to the board about hiring Benitez against all common sense, and to the fans who only a few seasons ago were happy and wanted us to avoid Europa Qualification.

 

[The Trinity.]

hopefully stay up, sell dead wood and regroup with players who want to wear the shirt- possibly look to sign younger players who can imrpove us and possible be sold to in the future to assist with FFP issues- try to recreate what dortmund did

Hopefully stay up. Can't argue with that.
But as for selling our deadwood. We are always looking to sell our deadwood. Then we buy more deadwood. And the whole cycle starts again.
Won't go back further that Martinez. But the deadwood thing seems to have started with him. And yes we have always had useless players. But no real harm done. They were moved on at some point. But big OTT contracts seemed to have started with Martinez. And our deadwood then didn't want to move. Then its been useless managers , buying useless players. And we can't move them on. Nobody wants them. No team wants to match their contracts. No team is as stupid as we are.
So you are spot on. That culture has to change.
Is Frank Lampard the man to change things? I don't know. But let's hope that he does realise who the deadwood are. And gets shot of them.
I half expect Patterson....Branthwaite.....Dobbin and Gordon to be moved on. And we approach next season with the same old plodders.
Just don't really expect Everton to do things right. But I hope and pray that they do. Sorry about the rant. Up The Toffees.....

 

[The Trinity.]

Voted for this just being a blip. But it's now becoming a bloody long blip. Just wish that someone has the nous on how to change all that.
A blip usually is just that.......a blip. Then things change. But our blip is everlasting. It's not going away. Help......aaarrrgghh.

 

[Carlito]

Nothing will improve until Moshiri is gone, to be replaced by an owner who has both the will and the authority to get rid of Kenwright and the crony culture that permeates through the club at all levels.