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Who should replace Frank Lampard?

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Eggsyblueskin said:
It feels like over the last 30 years this club exists just to survive.
My question now is what exactly are we surviving for ?
Dyche may secure us safety (although he’s already failed twice to do that with Burnley)
But at best he’ll just return us to that purgatorial mid table nothingness we’ve already occupied for far too long.
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Oh how I pine for the days of purgatorial mid table nothingness...
 
Eggsyblueskin said:
It feels like over the last 30 years this club exists just to survive.
My question now is what exactly are we surviving for ?
Dyche may secure us safety (although he’s already failed twice to do that with Burnley)
But at best he’ll just return us to that purgatorial mid table nothingness we’ve already occupied for far too long.
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That's pretty much it. That's the running of the football club there in a nutshell. Not striving to be the best. Not even remotely. That left the football club
even before the Premier League arrived. Neville Southall's famous quote is spot on, and even worse, Kenwright has stage managed lowering the expectations even further. We're in a postion now where staying up will be success. As it was last season. How mad's that?
 
Jarvick said:
Oh how I pine for the days of purgatorial mid table nothingness...
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Perhaps that’s the trouble , we’ve allowed ourselves to be led into a position where just surviving in the top league is a legitimate ‘success’
‘Nothing But Best of the Rest is Good Enough’ is a poor motto to live by.
Trouble with only aspiring to be top of the mid table battlers is that you remain in mid table and the trouble with being mid table is you’re only ever one bad run from relegation.
If a top club , one of those that expects to challenge for the title, has a poor season they finish 4th or 5th. If they finish out of European qualification that is a crisis season.
But for those perpetually mired in mid table nothingness relegation is always a backward step away.
Every club outside of the elite clubs, every mid table club will ,at some point in the near to medium future , suffer relegation , it’s inevitable.
We have escaped by the skin of teeth numerous times in the last 30years, but this year our luck looks to have run out.
It was bound to happen at some point.
But even in the currently unlikely event we survive again, unless we want to revisit relegation battles with monotonous regularity, we have to find a way to break into that pack of clubs that expect rather than hope for trophies and titles.
For that we need a coherent plan , and a club that is modern and structured to pursue success , real success with silverware not the false success of mere survival.
That is what we haven’t got and that is why we’re currently condemned by to endless relegation battles whatever league we reside in.”
 
Jarvick said:
Oh how I pine for the days of purgatorial mid table nothingness...
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That was where all this started going downhill. Players came for a relaxing payday, Bill convinced us to expect little more than mediocrity and the club delivered it. Everything slides downhill with that attitude, especially when other clubs are climbing upwards, there is only one way for us to eventually go
 
Scott Parker, he just got a Champions League team, even though he would of been another on the Not Good Enough for Us list ....
It's still Sean Dyche, and has been for weeks, problem is we've thrown away too many points since the world cup, so it's too late now
 

the_toffees_bosnia said:
people really want dyche for manager , bring ultra defensive coach in team wich cant score if thay life depends on it....it's suicide..
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Dyche over achieved with the squad at Burnley. He got results from a very limited squad with very little funds. He has a record of getting a team out of the Championship. As many try to argue for Allardyce, we don’t know what kind of football Dyche would play with a better squad. His achievements at Burnley are at least equal to what Moyes achieved with Everton. He is the stabilising hand the club need right now, placing results ahead of ‘style’ and hard work ahead of flair. We don’t have a squad capable of flair or style so why on earth ho for a Manager who wants to play attractive attacking football. That can come with time and squad building. We are back to when Moyes took over at Everton and he made us hard to beat 0-0 & 1-0 were common results in his early days and they set the foundations on which to build. Dyche can do the same with the insurance of being proven in the Championship if it comes to it. He would certainly be working with a better squad than any he ever had at Burnley.
 

There is no way they are sacking him this week it would have been done by now.
I think if we lose at West Ham we will see him leave under the banner of mutual consent.
They will then put Baines in charge until the end of the month for the Arsenal and Liverpool game.
We will not be signing anybody this window maybe a couple of incoming loans.
This is my take on things so I will probably be wrong. Our biggest problem is that the people making the decisions whose main concerns should be focused on avoiding relegation are completely focused on saving there own skins and improving their image to the footballing world not the supporters who they are supposed to represent
I have been fully behind Lampard and I am hoping he can still turn it round but his position is becoming increasingly untenable.
 
Eggsyblueskin said:
Perhaps that’s the trouble , we’ve allowed ourselves to be led into a position where just surviving in the top league is a legitimate ‘success’
‘Nothing But Best of the Rest is Good Enough’ is a poor motto to live by.
Trouble with only aspiring to be top of the mid table battlers is that you remain in mid table and the trouble with being mid table is you’re only ever one bad run from relegation.
If a top club , one of those that expects to challenge for the title, has a poor season they finish 4th or 5th. If they finish out of European qualification that is a crisis season.
But for those perpetually mired in mid table nothingness relegation is always a backward step away.
Every club outside of the elite clubs, every mid table club will ,at some point in the near to medium future , suffer relegation , it’s inevitable.
We have escaped by the skin of teeth numerous times in the last 30years, but this year our luck looks to have run out.
It was bound to happen at some point.
But even in the currently unlikely event we survive again, unless we want to revisit relegation battles with monotonous regularity, we have to find a way to break into that pack of clubs that expect rather than hope for trophies and titles.
For that we need a coherent plan , and a club that is modern and structured to pursue success , real success with silverware not the false success of mere survival.
That is what we haven’t got and that is why we’re currently condemned by to endless relegation battles whatever league we reside in.”
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100% right. The likes of Man U, City and the RS go in to meltdown if they’re not top 4 let alone top 6. With that approach relegation is never something that will likely be an issue for them again.
 
Eggsyblueskin said:
It feels like over the last 30 years this club exists just to survive.
My question now is what exactly are we surviving for ?
Dyche may secure us safety (although he’s already failed twice to do that with Burnley)
But at best he’ll just return us to that purgatorial mid table nothingness we’ve already occupied for far too long.
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Mid table is exactly where we need to be in order to rebuild on reasonably solid ground, not the sand of the Championship.
 
kev101 said:
Mid table is exactly where we need to be in order to rebuild on reasonably solid ground, not the sand of the Championship.
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The club has no intention or more accurately no ability of rebuilding wherever we are positioned in the league structure.
We have squandered not just money but over the last 30years, our history and prestige.
We have become structured just for the act of survival.
We are a football patient attached to a life support machine and all but clinically dead.
A zombie club with a continuing habit of appointing zombie managers.
 
Eggsyblueskin said:
The club has no intention or more accurately no ability of rebuilding wherever we are positioned in the league structure.
We have squandered not just money but over the last 30years, our history and prestige.
We have become structured just for the act of survival.
We are a football patient attached to a life support machine and all but clinically dead.
A zombie club with a continuing habit of appointing zombie managers.
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And you think dropping into the championship is the answer?
Being in a far far worse position is not going to do anything but make things far far worse.
 

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