Who Stay’s, Who Goes

[marnie]

They'll all go, except Gomes just to spite me.

Putting decorations up on the site when Gomes leaves.

Can we have Christmas falling snow PLEASE.

 

[Bkk Andy]

I'll break down my prediction of what would happen. Don't read it if you don't want nightmares.

They'll sack Lampard as a scapegoat, but they shouldn't. We'll end up with a Wilder or a Dyche type.

Pickford goes to a fairly good team. Begovic stays. Lonergan and Virginia who cares, both leave. We sign a new #1 on the cheap/free.

We build the team around a defence of Patterson, Godfrey, Branthwaite/Keane and Mykolenko. Mina goes, and hopefully someone is stupid enough to buy Keane and Holgate or they'll both stay. Kenny gets a new deal for the sake of depth due to the mass squad exodus, and Coleman and Nkounkou stay as backup. Little change here.

Midfield is less obvious. Delph and Allan both leave. Doucoure almost certainly gets bought by a lower Prem side. VdB goes back to United, Alli gets let go on a free, and Gylfi obviously leaves too. We're stuck with Gomes as nobody will buy him. Iwobi will stay due to a lack of suitors - wouldn't be upset about this if he's played in a midfield 3. Gbamin will come back in and be a nice surprise unless CSKA offer to buy him. Davies of course stays.

Out wide, Gray, Gordon, and Townsend all stay.

Richarlison, Tosun, Simms and Kean all go. Due to injuries and a poor season, nobody meets the asking price for DCL and he stays. Dobbin gets more time on the pitch. Rondon stays for another season and sees his contract out.

Overall that likely leaves us with; Begovic, Patterson, Coleman, Kenny, Godfrey, Branthwaite, Keane, Holgate, Nkounkou, Gomes, Davies, Gbamin, Iwobi, Gray, Gordon, Townsend, DCL, Dobbin, Rondon. With 4 cheap signings. 1x keeper, 2x CMs, 1x winger.

I think you've absolutely nailed it. I would hope that Coleman has the decency to retire and we can save his high wages. Gray might find a suitor that remembers his early season form

 

[blue61]

The people we'd want to stay will go, and the people we want to bin will stay because nobody can afford their wages as we hurtle relentlessly to league one.

 

[Bkk Andy]

I think this is pretty realistic, and to be honest not that terrifying. I agree the chances of DCL moving are maybe decreasing - if no one will meet a decent price then we are as well trying to rehab him and get him firing to drive the price back up. I think we'd want to keep a hold of Simms for the Championship, he could develop well there. Obviously in an ideal world we'd also get Gomes and at least one of Keane / Holgate out the door and off the wage bill but it should still represent a good slashing of the wages and a few quid in the door for the likes of Pickford and Richy.

I really hope they don't sack Lampard, we can't just keep going round in circles. Give him and his very strong backroom team a chance to work with the younger players, and use his contacts to get a few quality loans in the door to flesh out the squad.

I wonder if we could afford to keep Lampard and his crew on the salaries they are likely to be costing. There would need to be some major cost cutting.

 

[marnie]

One thing I know is for sure. We won't lose any blues from this wonderful site. No matter what division we are in and Goodison will be the same.

 

[jazzy]

I'll break down my prediction of what would happen. Don't read it if you don't want nightmares.

They'll sack Lampard as a scapegoat, but they shouldn't. We'll end up with a Wilder or a Dyche type.

Pickford goes to a fairly good team. Begovic stays. Lonergan and Virginia who cares, both leave. We sign a new #1 on the cheap/free.

We build the team around a defence of Patterson, Godfrey, Branthwaite/Keane and Mykolenko. Mina goes, and hopefully someone is stupid enough to buy Keane and Holgate or they'll both stay. Kenny gets a new deal for the sake of depth due to the mass squad exodus, and Coleman and Nkounkou stay as backup. Little change here.

Midfield is less obvious. Delph and Allan both leave. Doucoure almost certainly gets bought by a lower Prem side. VdB goes back to United, Alli gets let go on a free, and Gylfi obviously leaves too. We're stuck with Gomes as nobody will buy him. Iwobi will stay due to a lack of suitors - wouldn't be upset about this if he's played in a midfield 3. Gbamin will come back in and be a nice surprise unless CSKA offer to buy him. Davies of course stays.

Out wide, Gray, Gordon, and Townsend all stay.

Richarlison, Tosun, Simms and Kean all go. Due to injuries and a poor season, nobody meets the asking price for DCL and he stays. Dobbin gets more time on the pitch. Rondon stays for another season and sees his contract out.

Overall that likely leaves us with; Begovic, Patterson, Coleman, Kenny, Godfrey, Branthwaite, Keane, Holgate, Nkounkou, Gomes, Davies, Gbamin, Iwobi, Gray, Gordon, Townsend, DCL, Dobbin, Rondon. With 4 cheap signings. 1x keeper, 2x CMs, 1x winger.

I think that that is frighteningly realistic.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

I wonder if we could afford to keep Lampard and his crew on the salaries they are likely to be costing. There would need to be some major cost cutting.

But the alternative is to pay them off anyway unless there is a relegation break clause, and I doubt Frank and his team would be that daft given the position we were in when they were hired.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Would have them all out if we go down.

 

[Bkk Andy]

But the alternative is to pay them off anyway unless there is a relegation break clause, and I doubt Frank and his team would be that daft given the position we were in when they were hired.

I read somewhere that there was a relegation release clause. No idea if it's true.

 

[ForestBlue]

all the overpaid ?

so all of them then!

 

[bullybeef]

Think this is a conversation for another day.

 

[kiss the crest]

Any admin staff who don’t pull their weight can go too. Get rid of all the dross at every level. Anyone who can’t make a decent brew, or doesn’t wash their dishes after using them can jog on.

Fantastic ???

 

[Axlswhk]

As I said yesterday, we would need to sell almost the entire squad.

Current wage bill 184m
Current revenue 196m

Championship revenue 50m

They are rough figures, but not that far from reality.

Where’s the Parachute money ?

 

[Goat]

Where’s the Parachute money ?

My figures were rough and also out of date I have found.

After delving slightly deeper.

I based my figure on 7m TV money and parachute payments which I estimated at around 35m for the first year.

You can add Commerical and ticket sales to that and also, as I said, my figures are out of date.

 

[Axlswhk]

My figures were rough and also out of date I have found.

After delving slightly deeper.

I based my figure on 7m TV money and parachute payments which I estimated at around 35m for the first year.

You can add Commerical and ticket sales to that and also, as I said, my figures are out of date.

Factor in the sales of Richie, DCL, Pickford. 100 to 120m combine.

Potential sales of Gomes, Keane, holgate.

Kean money.

Wages reduction from siggy, Delph, Tosun, Kenny.

I don’t think we are anywhere close to collapse.

Waiting for expert to correct me.