Who was worse, Mike Walker or Walter Smith?

[Gwladys Nights]

Just had a look at Wiki for the stats. Walker had a 17% win percentage over 35 games with us. Smith had 32% over 168.

Also found out Mike Walker was Ian Walker's Dad. How did I not know that until now?

 

[davek]

So, Walker was better than Smith because he got sacked five times as quick? What?

Smith was dire as well but we were half-stable for three of his four seasons. We were constantly imperiled under Walker. No comparison.

Stable? Funny, I don't recall us being called 'stable' this season in the bottom half of the table.

We were utter turd.

It was the year zero under Smith...a man who's tenure inspired depression.

 

[davek]

Walker 17% win percentage
Smith 32% win percentage

Walker managed to win just 6 games in his 10 months in charge. The Smith years were grim but i felt with Smith, it was always him going against the grain, always an uphill battle. The false promises, the lies, the selling of players behind his back, the selling of our top players just to balance the books.

Walker was so bad that he didn't even know how to conduct a training session properly.

Didn't prevent a limited manager like Moyes doing a much better job under the same circumstances.

Smith did nothing other than pocket cash from player sales while he was here. A certain amount went to him over and above the 'book value' of the player was agreed, I believe....and by God did he shift some players in and out.

 

[royalblue66]

Just had a look at Wiki for the stats. Walker had a 17% win percentage over 35 games with us. Smith had 32% over 168.

Also found out Mike Walker was Ian Walker's Dad. How did I not know that until now?

If I rememer we used to sing something about his dad signing on to Ian Walker. after he was sacked. ?

 

[4737carlin]

Stable? Funny, I don't recall us being called 'stable' this season in the bottom half of the table.

We were utter turd.

It was the year zero under Smith...a man who's tenure inspired depression.

This coming from the guy who thinks everything was under control in the season just gone under Martinez!!

Under Smith it was shocking period of time for Everton, any decent player we had needed to be sold for the bank, his drill was to keep us up, nothing more, and he did, while also giving us a few very memorable games along the way. If Walker was handed more time we would of been gone.

Can't believe this question has been asked, mike walker was terrible. Walter had his hands tied at times, he bought some good players when he had money. Matterazi, Dacourt, Collins

Good point.

 

[Christiffa25]

Smith.

He was the anti-Christ.

I don't think there's been many darker periods in the club's history.

The terrible negative football, the dire boot camp feel about the relationship between players and manager, the use of all his arl arses he brought in to shore him and Knox up, the murky Smith/Roach combination that had the definite whiff of payola about it.

A disgusting regime. Walker was short lived and almost funny. Smith was sinister and dark. No competition. The ugly Smith era was easily worse than the Walker 'period'.

Other than Walkers haha...

I think you like to just go against the majority whatever the subject.

 

[royalblue66]

Tough question, shudder shudder.

 

[n01efc]

This coming from the guy who thinks everything was under control in the season just gone under Martinez!!

Under Smith it was shocking period of time for Everton, any decent player we had needed to be sold for the bank, his drill was to keep us up, nothing more, and he did, while also giving us a few very memorable games along the way. If Walker was handed more time we would of been gone.



Good point.

Absolutely right, we would have been gone under Walker and Smith did what was asked of him which was to sell sell sell

 

[davek]

This coming from the guy who thinks everything was under control in the season just gone under Martinez!!

Under Smith it was shocking period of time for Everton, any decent player we had needed to be sold for the bank, his drill was to keep us up, nothing more, and he did, while also giving us a few very memorable games along the way. If Walker was handed more time we would of been gone.

Maybe you're forgetting that he was sacked precisely because he wasn't going to keep Everton up.

He was an utter disaster. Football the worst there's ever been...even Moyes' stuff felt like we'd been blessed by the footballing gods in comparison.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Maybe you're forgetting that he was sacked precisely because he wasn't going to keep Everton up.

He was an utter disaster. Football the worst there's ever been...even Moyes' stuff felt like we'd been blessed by the footballing gods in comparison.

We nearly went down in walker's season ffs. We were closer than ever to takin the drop under that bulb.

 

[davek]

We nearly went down in walker's season ffs. We were closer than ever to takin the drop under that bulb.

Smith was taking us down...even that clueless tit Kenwright woke up to smell the coffee.

Maybe you're mind has shut it out? Maybe the idiot local media have worked successfully on you to give that Glaswegian idiot a veneer of respectability?

The reality was that he had to be punted to avoid the drop.

10 months of Smith would have been a better idea than the 4 years he haunted Goodison Park. His shadow cast a long unsavoury shadow on Everton. It's exactly why Moyes was welcomed so much and with great enthusiasm...because of the nightmare that preceded his appointment.

 

[4737carlin]

Maybe you're forgetting that he was sacked precisely because he wasn't going to keep Everton up.

He was an utter disaster. Football the worst there's ever been...even Moyes' stuff felt like we'd been blessed by the footballing gods in comparison.

I seem to recall him going after Middlesbourgh knocked us out of the cup?

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Smith was taking us down...even that clueless tit Kenwright woke up to smell the coffee.

Maybe you're mind has shut it out? Maybe the idiot local media have worked successfully on you to give that Glaswegian idiot a veneer of respectability?

The reality was that he had to be punted to avoid the drop.

10 months of Smith would have been a better idea than the 4 years he haunted Goodison Park. His shadow cast a long unsavoury shadow on Everton.

I haven't shut it out at all - Although I could ask the same about you with Walker.

I'm in no way defending smith, but ffs - don't compare horse poo with cow poo. Both stink as bad as the other.

 

[Del]

Martinez

 

[quasi modo]

Both were dire parts of history, but everything about Walkers stint was small time, everything.