Why aren't English clubs after American talent?

[Zatara]

Imagine thinking anyone is comparing the 90s develop of American youth to what is happening now.

We're done here. And you've once again produced a list of Brazilian players you think are good who really aren't just for good measue.

Alexi Lalas PMSL.

If those Brazilians arent 'good' then what does that make those Americans...worse than not good?

Yes, anyone over a certain age would remember Alexi Lalas...

To most of us he is the symbol of American football

 

[TheBigIguana]

If those Brazilians arent 'good' then what does that make those Americans...worse than not good?

Yes, anyone over a certain age would remember Alexi Lalas...

To most of us he is the symbol of American football

You just clearly aren't aware of what has happened to the game in this country recently

 

[EFCPaul]

Not many of them are very good, they are years behind in terms of coaching. Harder to get them visas too. That simple really.

 

[Zatara]

You just clearly aren't aware of what has happened to the game in this country recently

Two words....David Beckham

 

[TheBigIguana]

Two words....David Beckham

Yeah man like exactly. You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Alan Whittle]

Who will be the new Joe Max Moore?

 

[ClausThomsen]

I didn't list Pulisic in my initial list, but look at Pulisic at Chelsea. He's their best attacker. Players like Werner, Giroud, Ziyech, Havertz, Hudson-Odoi are all struggling and they are not getting regular playing time, and instead being rotated. Yet, Pulisic is constantly being played by Lampard, week in week out.

Dest is a regular starter for Barcelona. Mckennie is a regular starter for Juventus. Reyna is a regular starter for Dortmund. Adams is a regular starter for RB Leipzig (2nd best team in Germany). Hoppe is currently the best young striker in the Bundesliga after Haaland. This isn't the "golden generation", but the new norm of American soccer. Teams such as Juventus, Bayern, Barcelona, etc are now actively recruting Americans to their academies because American talent is seen very highly now, and even above the South American talent.

You could list all the past American players, but they did nothing substantial at club level in Europe, except the goalkeepers and Dempsey at Fulham/Spurs. This current generation? It's a different story.

That doesn't change the point made by @Huyton Layne about work permits on the first page.

Until MLS teams and the national side increase their co-efficients on the continental and world stage respectively then it's going to be very difficult for PL clubs to sign young American talent under current work permit regulations. Especially uncapped young players.

 

[d34noj]

America is the retirement home for talented footballers.

Nuff said.

 

[ClausThomsen]

Why aren't Liverpool and Everton raiding Merseyside for more talent?

Growing up in Huyton, I saw tons of skilful players and I just don't get why they don't make it.

I saw Gerrard play, midget playing for Whiston Juniors. He was just another good player to me on the estate.

There should be a new approach to scouting, or maybe there is and I've missed it.

At least it's a bit better. If Michael Owen was born just a few years earlier, no one would have picked him. He already was rejected by Everton for being too small

They are.

Several of the current U18s & U23s were born in Liverpool and more are from the North-West. That alone shows that the school-age teams feeding into the club have plenty of local talent in them.

Just because very few young local kids make the grade at senior level that doesn't mean they aren't being recruited in droves at junior level. It's just that a miniscule percentage of young schoolboy footballers signed to academys go on to have professional careers at any level, let alone in the top flight.

 

[TheBigIguana]

America is the retirement home for talented footballers.

Nuff said.

This thread isn't about MLS. Which is actually doing that less than it used to. They're spending a lot of money on talented South Americans now.

 

[d34noj]

This thread isn't about MLS. Which is actually doing that less than it used to. They're spending a lot of money on talented South Americans now.

South Americans yes. North Americans no.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Language barriers?

You lot have better words than we do. They're goofy, but they have style.

You can tell from our idioms that we were the agrarian society while you were the cultural center of the world in the 19th Century. Somehow, we never really overcame that lingusitically.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

You lot have better words than we do. They're goofy, but they have style.

You can tell from our idioms that we were the agrarian society while you were the cultural center of the world in the 19th Century. Somehow, we never really overcame that lingusitically.

Or spelt centre properly, or seams.......

 

[Chris O'Connor]

South Americans yes. North Americans no.

Exactly, most look to South America where the tradition for top class footballers is a great and long one and talented fotballers are plentiful and still relatively inexpensive. Even their renowned superstars can still be affordable, Neymar aside.

 

[emir]

The US won't be producing footballers of top drawer quality consistently any time soon, because of the lack of emphasis on the sport as a whole. It's seen as a girls sport there, which is why their women's side is tremendous.

It's like how the UK aren't going to be producing NBA basketball players consistently, because it isn't a sport given any emphasis here.

Population size isn't a good argument either. There's no world class Chinese players, or Indian players, very few Russian players of any calibre over the years etc. etc.

You have literally zero idea what you're talking about. I understand that you only follow the Premier League but at least follow through my posts on here.

America has been consistently producing talent in the last 1-2 years. Mckennie has established himself as the best midfielder at Juve. Pulisic has been the only regular starter at Chelsea for Lampard. Adams has been playing regularly for Leipzig. Reyna has established himself as a top starter for Dortmund. Dest has been the best LB for Barca this season. Hoppe has proved to be the best young striker in the Bundesliga after Haaland. The point here is, the talent is immense and it's only been apparent in the last 1-2 years, as we see the results of the shift in culture of American soccer. German and Italian clubs are now recruiting American talent, more than other talent in the Americas, above Brazillian or Argentine.