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Wigan Athletic 1-1 Everton. 4th Feb at 15.00.

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When Moyes brought on Neville I was disgusted. Those who were there must have felt like they were punched in the stomach.

I reiterate what I have said previously: I will not pay to watch Everton again as long as Moyes is in charge. He's a no-trophy wonder.

I am not interested in any 'hands-tied no-money' arguments/defences. Neville should be nowhere near my team - and that goes for Cahill too.

Couldn't muster 30,000 for Manchester City. You reap what you sow Moyes.
 
kenada_blue said:
And that worked because Osman and Pienaar are creative link up players who can distribute well. Again, the problem has been creativity around him rather than the midfield itself. The reoccurring theme when Felli and Rodders played was always good possession but no cutting edge as we had no width and Cahill just in front of them.

Additionally, Fellaini has also played well with Neville or Heitinga just sitting behind him. He covers more ground than almost everyone in the team because he's up and down. That works better when he has a player sitting and covering him when he ventures. But it doesnt work so well when there's no creativity on the flanks or in front of him...which is why he's been hit and miss with Rodwell...Rodwell looking better of the two because of it.

Felli and Rodwell hardly ever lose the ball when in possession. The old "they just pass side ways" is true...but the difference now is that we have Drenthe, Donovan, and Pienaar out there so its no surprise Fellaini looks better because, even without Gibson IMO, he has better players around him who can pick him out or vice versa.

The Felli/Rodwell partnership will look twice as good with Donovan, Drenthe and Pienaar in the mix IMO because Rodwell offers more than just sitting like Gibson does (so far).

When Rodwell comes back, I'd much prefer Fellaini, Pienaar, Rodwell midifeld with Pienaar in the middle of the two. Cahill doesnt offer much, and Rodwell hasnt been let of the leash further forward.

It wont happen. But overall, I wouldnt say Gibson is doing anything special to boost Fellaini. I'd say its more the support on the wings giving the midfield more balance than just the 1 player. Bringing Rodwell in would boost the midfield even more.
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Better players out wide and in front of Rodwell - has he ever given the impression he's one of those players who can pick out a pass? I think he's a cool player who can keep possession in a congested part of the pitch. The problem is that Fellaini does that in spades. I think we have much of a muchness in CM when they make the two up. Fellaini has to be the anchor in there and a more quciksilver player has to play off him and be the creative spark for others. Pienaar could do that.

On Gibson, TBH I dont know what we have on our hands there. Time will tell. As for today's performance: he did a job but was nothing special. I think he looked a bit heavy legged and maybe he's felt the pace after playing two full PL matches on the bounce in 4 days...something he's not used.
 
Our fans were boss today, all the Wigginers around me agreed.
We played quite well, Pienaar gave me a semi quite a few times and I have no idea what happened with their goal apart from "get your body behind it" seems not be in the coaching manual any more.
Oh, and Vic scored ... again, what's the world coming to ?
 

LD's twitter - Tim looked injured, and apparently he was:

Thanks for the fantastic support again today. Hope @Tim_Cahill is ok and fit for next weekend. Another solid game by @Johnheitinga
 
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Pienaar played well, I've nice feeling about his return
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i thought he did really well to say he hadnt played much footy this season, not going to go well with some people but i think we are missing osman, we might see some decent footy when these two team up, snappy passing and high work rate might give the fowards a bit of space and service, hope he is back before donavan goes home or are footy will suffer
 
davek said:
Better players out wide and in front of Rodwell - has he ever given the impression he's one of those players who can pick out a pass? I think he's a cool player who can keep possession in a congested part of the pitch. The problem is that Fellaini does that in spades. I think we have much of a muchness in CM when they make the two up. Fellaini has to be the anchor in there and a more quciksilver player has to play off him and be the creative spark for others. Pienaar could do that.

On Gibson, TBH I dont know what we have on our hands there. Time will tell. As for today's performance: he did a job but was nothing special. I think he looked a bit heavy legged and maybe he's felt the pace after playing two full PL matches on the bounce in 4 days...something he's not used.
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He doesnt have to pick a pass, he just has to feed the ones that can...he does that in his sleep.

But..its why I've always wanted Rodwell further up the pitch in that Cahill role. Rodders has that engine to get up and down and help out, but that class of linking up and keeping possession...you just have a Pienaar-type sitting in the middle pulling strings.

Gibson is very average...cut from the same cloth as your Cattermole's, Reo Cokers, etc. Not poor...just meh
 

So what do we think of Jelavic? I didn't see alot of the second half because my stream was messing up.

Is he going to be better with two upfront? Or as a lone man
 
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So what do we think of Jelavic? I didn't see alot of the second half because my stream was messing up.

Is he going to be better with two upfront? Or as a lone man
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We didn't really have any service so hard to say. He made a one needless foul that cut our attack but maybe he was just revved up a bit on his debut.
 
Abraders said:
So what do we think of Jelavic? I didn't see alot of the second half because my stream was messing up.

Is he going to be better with two upfront? Or as a lone man
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Looked good, like he has talent. Muscled some folks off balls, turned well, passed well. Looks more elegant than Straq (though Straq worked his socks off again today). Made a frustrated bad decision at the end and fouled during a promising attack.

Don't know if we have enough minutes to judge whether or not 1 or 2, but imo he looked good when he was combining with someone. Had some nice moments with LD when LD and Vic were switching off between 2nd striker and RM.
 
no worries boys, no need for negativity.
thanx bic vic for that goal!

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