John from Bootle
Player Valuation: £15m
"Looking at the the fixtures" had us pretty much relegated last season, no?
Give your head a wobble. 10 teams in a relegation battle this season, and we might be one of them, but don't be so defeatist.
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"Looking at the the fixtures" had us pretty much relegated last season, no?
Give your head a wobble. 10 teams in a relegation battle this season, and we might be one of them, but don't be so defeatist.
I voted yes.
Voting yes doesnt mean I want him sacked, it simply means results have left the Board no choice but to do it.
We have an away game and then the Derby.
Historically, 2 games in which we get zip.
But again, to clarify, I do not want him sacked.
Taps nose
magicjuan
Player Valuation: £60m
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Because Moshiri is an idiot with a track record of sacking managers far too often.
Drico
Player Valuation: £60m
Everton managers rarely survive the 12 for 12 rule: 12 points - or less - from 12 games usually gets you the sack.
Benitez, Silva, Koeman, Martinez, Smith, and Walker all got the bullet with figures that fell into this category. Allardyce's last 12 games yielded 18 points and he still went.
If Frank has us bottom three come the World Cup break - and he has earned 12 points or less from his previous 12 games, history says he'll be dismissed. And this board will need a scapegoat for their own, time-honoured, incompetence.
Benitez, Silva, Koeman, Martinez, Smith, and Walker all got the bullet with figures that fell into this category. Allardyce's last 12 games yielded 18 points and he still went.
If Frank has us bottom three come the World Cup break - and he has earned 12 points or less from his previous 12 games, history says he'll be dismissed. And this board will need a scapegoat for their own, time-honoured, incompetence.
Don’t want him sacked, like him as a character, not convinced he’s going to get enough wins between now and then to save himself, which is a shame and does nothing for our longer term plans.
His points per game ave is something like 1.11 with us iirc. Not good enough I’m afraid.
Hope he proves me wrong but I said that about Dele too ??
His points per game ave is something like 1.11 with us iirc. Not good enough I’m afraid.
Hope he proves me wrong but I said that about Dele too ??
Oh matty, do lighten up.
glory_daze
Player Valuation: £5m
We won't be winning at Leeds with a passionate crowd behind them under the lights,and due a defeat there, losing to the the RS, then Arsenal away. No way we are staying off bottom. Wolves/West Ham could both get results tomorrow also.
No
jonnyboy316
Player Valuation: £35m
He is operating with a hand tied behind his back. We have the worst balanced squad in the league combined with a series of injuries to key players. Far too early for this thread
Drico
Player Valuation: £60m
For further historical context:
Benitez was sacked after taking 5 points from his last possible 36. Mike Walker, surely the most obvious comparison to such a shocking run, was terminated after a run of 7 points from 36 in 1994. In 2002, Walter Smith was finally punted after taking 7 points from his last 36.
So, different eras but very similar patience metrics. The 12 matches that preceded their eventual sackings yielded between 5 and 7 points for all three of these managers. In worse news for Lampard, Roberto Martinez managed 9 points from his last 12 games and still got the bullet. Marco Silva picked up 10 and Ronald Koeman 11 (though three of those points were from the end of the previous season). Big Sam actually took 18.
Allowing for a certain amount of goodwill, Lampard might be given a little more time - Martinez and Silva had had full seasons before being sacked. But let's not delude ourselves. If the board might stomach 2 points from a possible 21 - or even the time-honoured red alert metric of 6 from 36, I suspect that would only happen if there were three or four other sides in similar to worse situations. The real danger, therefore, is that we get cut adrift while going through a horror run. That would, if history is any guide, be terminal.
Benitez was sacked after taking 5 points from his last possible 36. Mike Walker, surely the most obvious comparison to such a shocking run, was terminated after a run of 7 points from 36 in 1994. In 2002, Walter Smith was finally punted after taking 7 points from his last 36.
So, different eras but very similar patience metrics. The 12 matches that preceded their eventual sackings yielded between 5 and 7 points for all three of these managers. In worse news for Lampard, Roberto Martinez managed 9 points from his last 12 games and still got the bullet. Marco Silva picked up 10 and Ronald Koeman 11 (though three of those points were from the end of the previous season). Big Sam actually took 18.
Allowing for a certain amount of goodwill, Lampard might be given a little more time - Martinez and Silva had had full seasons before being sacked. But let's not delude ourselves. If the board might stomach 2 points from a possible 21 - or even the time-honoured red alert metric of 6 from 36, I suspect that would only happen if there were three or four other sides in similar to worse situations. The real danger, therefore, is that we get cut adrift while going through a horror run. That would, if history is any guide, be terminal.
bluejohn66
Player Valuation: £15m
I sincerely hope he's given the time, however this ' Utter Abortion ' of a board will use his dismissal as a smoke screen for their total incompetence !!!
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