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EFC Si said:
So on that basis everyone who follows Islam in this country has the same radical ideas as these guys? Whatever these two did it in the name of it is not the same Islam which has 'spread' in this country.
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Not once have I said that all muslims think this way.

Jeez people just picking out the parts they wanna argue with really pisses me off, just go back and read what I've written ffs.
 
EFCNIK said:
These arnt just two nutjobs who have escaped the asylum and have just killed a randomer. They've done it in the name of a foreign religion which should never have been allowed to have spread in the way that it has, seperate countries within a country.
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Blimey, can of worms that Nik! Now please take this as a debating point, NOT a view, but England, primarily at the time, fought many wars against Catholic nations. Henry 8th dissed the Pope, and a Catholic cannot, still, be the monarch of the UK.

Would you call Catholics a foreign religion? And for that matter, since when did religion have borders?
 
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EFCNIK said:
Not at all.

But I think islam should be more tolerant of us.

Because they arnt. Its all one way. We have to be tolerant of them otherwise were racist, but they can do whatever the **** they like otherwise we're racist.
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*applaudes*
 
roydo said:
Blimey, can of worms that Nik! Now please take this as a debating point, NOT a view, but England, primarily at the time, fought many wars against Catholic nations. Henry 8th dissed the Pope, and a Catholic cannot, still, be the monarch the the UK.

Would you call Catholics a foreign religion? And for that matter, since when did religion have borders?
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Indeed. By the same logic this country is founded on a 'foreign religion'.
 

Brennan said:
THESE PEOPLE ARE OUR IDIOTS.

Just because they are Muslims doesn't make them outsiders. F***ing hell Nik.
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forget it mate.

You are trying to rationalise with somebody who thinks Hillsborough is getting tedious and regaled us all with his views on the troubles in Ireland, including the classic 'who is Iain Paisley? Never heard of him'
 
Horrible event. I hope they lock both those sicko's up and they never see freedom again. They deserve far worse for such a vicious attack

I do disagree that the Muslim way of life does not compute with the western way of life. Moderate Muslims are perfectly fine. There are extremists in all forms of religion. What about those insane Christians who protest outside soldiers funerals in the USA?

At the end of the day, ANY religion is capable of extremism. That doesn't mean it isn't compatible with modern life

This is coming from an Agnostic too. I don't have a stake any religion
 

Please this is just Devils advocate, im just trying to see what people think

Imagine you live Pakistan, you have lived there since you was born, your parents left England for a better life.

England has a terrorist cell in it, lets say the IRA, and they are protecting a man who ordered a massive bombing in India killing 1000's,

So the Pakistan army along with other middle eastern armies are inside England trying to get rid of the IRA, but the Pakistan army are killing innocent people, torturing innocent men. stray bombs talking out streets of normal families. (or so you are being told by people in a little church you have all built) Imagine every time you go to this church, you are being told. the army have killed more people in England, what can we do here to stop it?

Maybe these guys have been fed so much bulls*it/or truth that they think its a worthy cause to revenge the attacks of there people.
 
I felt physically sick seeing that video of him on the news, hands covered in blood. I can't even begin to comprehend something like this!
 
Brennan said:
Indeed. By the same logic this country is founded on a 'foreign religion'.
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Alright then mate. Let's just become an islamic state then. Would you enjoy that? Would that be ok because at the end of the day everything in history is based on foreign religion?

**** it let's just get sharia in and make our women where veils in summer.
 
Deloodid said:
Please this is just Devils advocate, im just trying to see what people think

Imagine you live Pakistan, you have lived there since you was born, your parents left England for a better life.

England has a terrorist cell in it, lets say the IRA, and they are protecting a man who ordered a massive bombing in India killing 1000's,

So the Pakistan army along with other middle eastern armies are inside England trying to get rid of the IRA, but the Pakistan army are killing innocent people, torturing innocent men. stray bombs talking out streets of normal families. (or so you are being told by people in a little church you have all built) Imagine every time you go to this church, you are being told. the army have killed more people in England, what can we do here to stop it?

Maybe these guys have been fed so much bulls*it/or truth that they think its a worthy cause to revenge the attacks of there people.
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See what you're saying.

But they can get to ****.
 
Anna said:
I felt physically sick seeing that video of him on the news, hands covered in blood. I can't even begin to comprehend something like this!
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Don't know why they put it on the news. That's exactly what they wanted.
 

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