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Yannick Bolasie

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Uhm... that's not what any of those say? People are happy with the business (although tbf one of them is because they're signing Benteke at the same time LMAO) but it isn't like they're going all out to say how terrible of a player he is. I mean that is light criticism compared to what our forum says.

"Maybe not the best footballer ever, rather flaky on the pitch "

"He's really hit and miss and can flatter to deceive "

"think he's past his best, and 25 mil, can't complain at that price. "

"he's inconsistent, coming off a bad year, and I'd argue not even our best winger."

Nobody has said he was terrible for Palace just that he wasn't amazing and even their own support will admit he was a very limited footballer and we overpaid.

Of course it is going to be lighter criticism compared to ours. Bolasie was good for them, nothing but a waste of money for us. Hardly surprising we are more stinging with our criticism.

You aren't going to find Palace fans calling him worse than this because they had to suffer through the likes of Jordan Mutch and Jason Puncheon so naturally Bolasie actually looked competent compared to those players and would be favoured accordingly.
 

"Maybe not the best footballer ever, rather flaky on the pitch "

"He's really hit and miss and can flatter to deceive "

"think he's past his best, and 25 mil, can't complain at that price. "

"he's inconsistent, coming off a bad year, and I'd argue not even our best winger."

Nobody has said he was terrible for Palace just that he wasn't amazing and even their own support will admit he was a very limited footballer and we overpaid.

Of course it is going to be lighter criticism compared to ours. Bolasie was good for them, nothing but a waste of money for us. Hardly surprising we are more stinging with our criticism.

You aren't going to find Palace fans calling him worse than this because they had to suffer through the likes of Jordan Mutch and Jason Puncheon so naturally Bolasie actually looked competent compared to those players and would be favoured accordingly.
I agree with this. Your last post said they were calling him "overrated tosh." Really they said he was up and down. That's not the same I don't think.

And yes there is room for our fans to be critical but my problem continues to be this idea that he failed from the start when in reality if he doesn't have his knee explode he probably ends up with a career here similar to Lennon and Walcott. That wouldn't have been good enough either but the treatment of those guys is different and completely down to a freak injury.
 
Bolasie was a completely average player. We paid 10 times what he was worth. He was a bad fit for Everton.
He's a bad fit for any team that wants to play high level football. The game isn't about crossing anymore, City and the RS make that pretty clear, but we signed him to pump balls in to Rom. It worked ok for a spell, but it was never a good plan.

Also nothing about that is Bolasie's own fault, as much as people will blame him it seems.
 
He's a bad fit for any team that wants to play high level football. The game isn't about crossing anymore, City and the RS make that pretty clear, but we signed him to pump balls in to Rom. It worked ok for a spell, but it was never a good plan.

Also nothing about that is Bolasie's own fault, as much as people will blame him it seems.

He wound me up so much doing pointless tricks and dribbling out of play with no one near him. He was just not what we needed at all. It's not his fault, it was Koeman and/or walsh for going after someone so opposite to what we needed.
 
I agree with this. Your last post said they were calling him "overrated tosh." Really they said he was up and down. That's not the same I don't think.

And yes there is room for our fans to be critical but my problem continues to be this idea that he failed from the start when in reality if he doesn't have his knee explode he probably ends up with a career here similar to Lennon and Walcott. That wouldn't have been good enough either but the treatment of those guys is different and completely down to a freak injury.
Lennon and Walcott are not exactly success stories either.

Both of them were bit part players who showed the odd flash of quality and besides that have been middling at best.

I'm sure most of us weren't upset to see the back of Lennon and nobody here would be crying about Walcott.

Lennon was brought in as a squad player and for only 5 million which we basically made back from Burnley.

Walcott was a 20 million signing that I didn't agree with but we were absolutely desperate, thanks in part to wasting 28 million on Bolasie.

I hold Bolasie and Walcott in the same group of overpaid mistakes.
 

Lennon and Walcott are not exactly success stories either.

Both of them were bit part players who showed the odd flash of quality and besides that have been middling at best.

I'm sure most of us weren't upset to see the back of Lennon and nobody here would be crying about Walcott.

Lennon was brought in as a squad player and for only 5 million which we basically made back from Burnley.

Walcott was a 20 million signing that I didn't agree with but we were absolutely desperate, thanks in part to wasting 28 million on Bolasie.

I hold Bolasie and Walcott in the same group of overpaid mistakes.
Which I think is totally fair. What I don't like is when people on here trash Bolasie like he's any different than about 10 other guys we've signed the last few years.
 
He wound me up so much doing pointless tricks and dribbling out of play with no one near him. He was just not what we needed at all. It's not his fault, it was Koeman and/or walsh for going after someone so opposite to what we needed.
We did need creativity and he did provide it sometimes, it was just in a unique way for lack of a better term. It actually wasn't the worst thing ever despite what some will say, but it probably would have been better to get a more orthodox player in.

Still I can't really hammer Bolasie pre-injury like some. The biggest problem was when he came back and Big Sam played him instead of guaranteeing Lookman minutes. I assume everyone agrees that was pretty dumb despite the anti-Lookman bias.
 
Which I think is totally fair. What I don't like is when people on here trash Bolasie like he's any different than about 10 other guys we've signed the last few years.
He's not, it's just the amount of money involved that adds fuel to the fire. Same as with Gylfi.

Not an absolutely useless player but less value-for-money than other players at a comparable level of ability. That's why these players wind up so many supporters.

It isn't their fault but not taking the hint and moving on is not going to endear them to us.
 
We did need creativity and he did provide it sometimes, it was just in a unique way for lack of a better term. It actually wasn't the worst thing ever despite what some will say, but it probably would have been better to get a more orthodox player in.

Still I can't really hammer Bolasie pre-injury like some. The biggest problem was when he came back and Big Sam played him instead of guaranteeing Lookman minutes. I assume everyone agrees that was pretty dumb despite the anti-Lookman bias.
Guaranteed Sam was told to use him to see if there was still a player in there.
 
Bolasie, Kone, Beckford, Drenthe, Straq, - gash signings for our attack
Beckford and Straq were both freebies, weren't they, at a time when we were broke? Straq, whatever his weaknesses, always gave everything he had, and Beckford scored one of the best goals I've ever seen. Granted Kone was a waste of money and Drenthe's attitude was disgraceful.
 

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