2018/19 Yerry Mina

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Mozza1987 said:
Not all Scousers need feeding at Christmas or need to sign on but we get sung that by other fans and that is fine. It's a crap song but racist is absolutely ridiculous.
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One thing being wrongly accepted (or at the very least, not treated as taboo as it should be) does not exclude the possibility that this other thing shouldn't be accepted either. Hard one to explain this; you might think that the 'sign on' song shouldn't be sung because it is offensive and also think that the Yerry Mina song shouldn't be sung because it is offensive. They aren't mutually exclusive; just because one song has been (rightly imo) recognised as being at the very least racially charged and thus not fine, there isn't then some issue of hypocrisy because the other one hasn't yet been recognised as built on sensitive imagery of scousers.

Having said that, what's more important to try and debunk is the idea that the negative stereotypes surrounding scousers as workshy and unemployed have had anywhere near the negative impact that overly sexualising black men has had. I am aware it all sounds a bit mad; after all, it sounds like positive discrimination really! But if you look into the history of that imagery, you'll find some really sinister stuff.

The concept has its origin in white slave owners, who tried to legitimise their ownership of African slaves by painting them as animalistic and savage, and thus there was a moral duty for white people to be stewards over black people. You might be familiar with this concept through 'The White Man's Burden.' A few choice quotes lifted from a 1944 paper covering this: 'N****** in all the passions, emotions, and ambitions, are almost wholly subservient to the sexual instinct." I don't want to go too much into this quite frankly, as let's be honest, I'm not about to get a bunch of wools to whip out their own copy of 'Black Skins, White Masks'. Having said that though, in the logic of racism, even 'racial virtue' can be twisted into a vice. Something that might seem a 'good' stereotype can be shown to be some ideal gone wrong, and the way in which black men have historically been associated with imagery of r*ping white women is just one observable element of this.

So how about them tricky blues? Probably get bounced at the weekend but that Tottenham backline has a mistake in it, I'm telling you now
 
Tilling said:
One thing being wrongly accepted (or at the very least, not treated as taboo as it should be) does not exclude the possibility that this other thing shouldn't be accepted either. Hard one to explain this; you might think that the 'sign on' song shouldn't be sung because it is offensive and also think that the Yerry Mina song shouldn't be sung because it is offensive. They aren't mutually exclusive; just because one song has been (rightly imo) recognised as being at the very least racially charged and thus not fine, there isn't then some issue of hypocrisy because the other one hasn't yet been recognised as built on sensitive imagery of scousers.

Having said that, what's more important to try and debunk is the idea that the negative stereotypes surrounding scousers as workshy and unemployed have had anywhere near the negative impact that overly sexualising black men has had. I am aware it all sounds a bit mad; after all, it sounds like positive discrimination really! But if you look into the history of that imagery, you'll find some really sinister stuff.

The concept has its origin in white slave owners, who tried to legitimise their ownership of African slaves by painting them as animalistic and savage, and thus there was a moral duty for white people to be stewards over black people. You might be familiar with this concept through 'The White Man's Burden.' A few choice quotes lifted from a 1944 paper covering this: 'N****** in all the passions, emotions, and ambitions, are almost wholly subservient to the sexual instinct." I don't want to go too much into this quite frankly, as let's be honest, I'm not about to get a bunch of wools to whip out their own copy of 'Black Skins, White Masks'. Having said that though, in the logic of racism, even 'racial virtue' can be twisted into a vice. Something that might seem a 'good' stereotype can be shown to be some ideal gone wrong, and the way in which black men have historically been associated with imagery of r*ping white women is just one observable element of this.

So how about them tricky blues? Probably get bounced at the weekend but that Tottenham backline has a mistake in it, I'm telling you now
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Get out of here with your well reasoned logic you horrific SJW
 


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