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tough call for only one either;bring all troops home immedetly;or the death penalty for peados and murders and serial offendrs of a serious nature
 
Bollocks.

That sentiment is correct in the sense that, if we're going to have a pointless war, we might aswell make sure that as few people die as possible by devoting as much money as we can to said pointless war. But when sending more of our kids in is tantamount to throwing them away all for the sake of not losing face, you can jog on. Ask a family member of a fallen soldier whether they'd rather more kids die so that their son didn't 'die in vain' (which makes no sense anyway), or whether they'd rather we made sure that it never happened to anyone elses family again. Expect the second option a thousand times out of a thousand.

So that'll be me, and I'm telling you now - He, as do the vast majority over there, feel they are to make a difference. It would be an insult to his and everyone elses memory if they are pulled out and nothing positive or constructive arises. Its not a case of saving face, its a case of seeing the job through.

Your argument can, has been and always will be used in reference to war. Shame on one occasion it was prior WW2.

Get rid of tuition fees.

Putting myself into a horrific amount of debt for 6 hours teaching a week. Utter joke.

Its even worse when you count out how many weeks your actually in University and work out how much you pay a week....
 
So that'll be me, and I'm telling you now - He, as do the vast majority over there, feel they are to make a difference. It would be an insult to his and everyone elses memory if they are pulled out and nothing positive or constructive arises.

Your argument can, has been and always will be used in reference to war. Shame on one occasion it was prior WW2.

Positives? From War? A war the Americans funded against the Russians? A war few others now want part of? Afghanistan has been fighting for so long its generations no nothing else, effectively it is like a diamond republic African state. Sabre rattling does nothing but point you out as a c**t to the rest of the international community.
 
Get rid of tuition fees.

Putting myself into a horrific amount of debt for 6 hours teaching a week. Utter joke.

You're not paying for the teaching per se but rather the qualification you get at the end of your course, and the subsequently increased earning potential that results from it.

Besides which, uni is very different to school. Structured time gives you the direction, you're then expected to go off and explore your subject as much as possible yourself. They provide the inspiration, you provide the perspiration. Or something like that.

It would be an insult to his and everyone elses memory if they are pulled out and nothing positive or constructive arises. Its not a case of saving face, its a case of seeing the job through.

Dan, if we assume that a positive outcome would be something like a peaceful society, do you think its an insult to fallen soldiers how successive governments around the world lurch from one war to another, seemingly no nearer to the goal of resolving conflicts peacefully? Humanity as a whole seems no nearer to peaceful existence, despite the millions of lives lost as a result of conflict. It makes me wonder what the point of all the bloodshed is?
 

Dan, if we assume that a positive outcome would be something like a peaceful society, do you think its an insult to fallen soldiers how successive governments around the world lurch from one war to another, seemingly no nearer to the goal of resolving conflicts peacefully? Humanity as a whole seems no nearer to peaceful existence, despite the millions of lives lost as a result of conflict. It makes me wonder what the point of all the bloodshed is?

Surprised by that Bruce, very surprised.

On that basis theres no logic ever going to war because theres always going to be conflict.

They dropped the ball big time then going to war with Hitler.
 
:huh:

You'll have to emphasise that point.

Bearing in mind the people of Iraq and Saddams utter disregard for human rights.

Saddams utter disregard for human rights? You are a high mod or joint forum owner, I cannot respond to that with the sheer violence of response it so sorely deserves. Pardon me.
 
Saddams utter disregard for human rights? You are a high mod or joint forum owner, I cannot respond to that with the sheer violence of response it so sorely deserves. Pardon me.

Translation: "Oh crap, he's right. There was a blatant positive of the war"

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To suggest there can't be any positive of war is daft.
 
Surprised by that Bruce, very surprised.

On that basis theres no logic ever going to war because theres always going to be conflict.

They dropped the ball big time then going to war with Hitler.

Indeed we did, we may well have had war anyway but to declare war precipitously was irresponsible.
 

Indeed we did, we may well have had war anyway but to declare war precipitously was irresponsible.

Britain, like America knew only too well about the genocide in Germany. The story goes we stood up for right and justice, but actually our hand was forced. Just like the US, they got involved when forced, they were just forced much later than Britain.
 
Translation: "Oh crap, he's right. There was a blatant positive of the war"

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To suggest there can't be any positive of war is daft.

Are you trying to claim Iraq is now a better place as a result of the positive benefits of war? If only there was a way to have a referendum on that eh?
 

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