2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[John from Bootle]

Fair play to you for plowing on relentlessly with this fruitless endeavour.

Excited to see where he ends up.

I'm not ploughing on with anything. I've said all along that I don't see enough goals in this squad. I've said on more than one occasion that I'm absolutely sure there's managers who could get us playing what is deemed more attractive football. I've said all along that I'm absolutely sure there's managers who would make us more attacking and score more, but this would invariably lead to more goals conceded and I'm not convinced it would even itself out.

Dyche improved our goal tally by 6 last season. It won us an extra 12 points. Leicester scored 17 more goals than us the season they got relegated.

There's no point in us scoring 10 more goals this season if we concede 15 more.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Still pours water on your argument that "nobody wanted him"

People actually did, like it or not people thought he was a good manager

I don't think it does.

I mean, here's @Goat's poll from 2 months before.

And the full one you cropped

You could find 1000 names on here, Dyche is below Paul Cook, Alan Stubbs and Neville Neville

 

[nsno-chris]

Well I specifically mentioned your comments relating to current players. Namely DCL and McNeil.

Yes mate, McNeil is still utter dog. Is he the only player in this team all of sudden. The same with Dom, regardless of my views is he the only striker we have now?? No, all of last season there were 2 waiting in the wings. An option not seen at this club since????

We also had better goal threats than that. No thanks to you and Frank, Dyche remedied that and brought Doucoure back in from exile.

Believe it or not, I had nothing to do with Doucoure leaving or remaining here.

But I'm glad you support the an awful footballer playing for this club, and being rewarded with a £30k pay rise for errrrr........running around a bit.

I also referenced you hanging your hat on how few goals many of them had scored in this league. A point which seems somewhat lost on you when you insist there's a lot more goals in this team.

Yes mate, is that when we had Iwobi, Gray, Maupay as our starting attack and had contributed less than 50 top flight goals between them, in over 300 games

Remind me again, which of these started this season????

As for Saints, I'm not sure that's an accurate description either. There was times when we let them have the ball, and there were times when we pressed. I reckon about 20% of the possession they had was just playing easy passes around at the back when we didn't press. Regardless though, that's not what you said anyway. You said we bunkered down for a 0-0 which we absolutely never.

good for you mate, keep guessing

 

[nsno-chris]

I don't think it does.

I mean, here's @Goat's poll from 2 months before.

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And the full one you cropped

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You could find 1000 names on here, Dyche is below Paul Cook, Alan Stubbs and Neville Neville

good representation that mate

because i'm sure Neville Neville was in consideration for the job

 

[MikeH72]

I'm not ploughing on with anything. I've said all along that I don't see enough goals in this squad. I've said on more than one occasion that I'm absolutely sure there's managers who could get us playing what is deemed more attractive football. I've said all along that I'm absolutely sure there's managers who would make us more attacking and score more, but this would invariably lead to more goals conceded and I'm not convinced it would even itself out.

Dyche improved our goal tally by 6 last season. It won us an extra 12 points. Leicester scored 17 more goals than us the season they got relegated.

There's no point in us scoring 10 more goals this season if we concede 15 more.

Why would it? There’s a thing called balance, something better managers can achieve.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

good representation that mate

because i'm sure Neville Neville was in consideration for the job

Almost like inclusion in a @Goat MOTM frequent WUM poll isn't the best of source for your claim that Everton fans wanted Sean Dyche prior, to well... lets use .... 27th Jan 2023 as the date.

Has destroyed the club in 7 years.
Took it to the brink of relegation twice and put us in such a financial mess that, as of the 27th January, cannot sign one player.

The mosh man, but thanks for the half built stadium that will be sold and then leased back to us at an extortionate rate

Rat

^ Dyche inherited a destroyed club. When he leaves, it'll be under new ownership and hopefully, still a Premier League team, heading into a stadium that isnt leased back to us as we all feared would be under 777. Job done.

 

[Nymzee]

Sad to see the boss man going all in on Sean Guardiola

 

[Toffeepot]

I don't think it does.

I mean, here's @Goat's poll from 2 months before.

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And the full one you cropped

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You could find 1000 names on here, Dyche is below Paul Cook, Alan Stubbs and Neville Neville

Dyche 26 votes
Potter 6 votes
which shows there is an appetite for 'hard to beat' above other styles

Your poll shows there were people, a small contingent as I said, that wanted Dyche.
The justification was always 'if he can do that with Burnley, imagine him with better players, bigger budget ' etc

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Dyche 26 votes
Potter 6 votes
which shows there is an appetite for 'hard to beat' above other styles

Your poll shows there were people, a small contingent as I said, that wanted Dyche.
The justification was always 'if he can do that with Burnley, imagine him with better players, bigger budget ' etc

Assume you're being a WUM, but the poll shows 2.2% voted for Dyche. Less than votes for Micky Mellon, Paul Cook, Alan Pardew, Ian Holloway, Gary Neville, Phil Neville, Alan Stubbs and Neville Neville. Clearly, Inclusion on a poll, and a 5%< vote on here doesn't mean anything. I voted for Wayne Rooney on the last poll. I'd rather the club fold before that.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Sad to see the boss man going all in on Sean Guardiola

Let’s just get behind him eh

 

[Toffeepot]

Assume you're being a WUM, but the poll shows 2.2% voted for Dyche. Less than votes for Micky Mellon, Paul Cook, Alan Pardew, Ian Holloway, Gary Neville, Phil Neville, Alan Stubbs and Neville Neville. Clearly, Inclusion on a poll, and a 5%< vote on here doesn't mean anything. I voted for Wayne Rooney on the last poll. I'd rather the club fold before that.

2.2% is a 'small contingent'
what are you on about with WUM?
that is more than 1 in 50 people that wanted Dyche
That's not no-one like you said

 

[nsno-chris]

Almost like inclusion in a @Goat MOTM frequent WUM poll isn't the best of source for your claim that Everton fans wanted Sean Dyche prior, to well... lets use .... 27th Jan 2023 as the date.



^ Dyche inherited a destroyed club. When he leaves, it'll be under new ownership and hopefully, still a Premier League team, heading into a stadium that isnt leased back to us as we all feared would be under 777. Job done.

here you go mate, seeing as nobody wanted him prior

And yes, Dyche inherited a destroyed club. Was it the clubs fault as to why he didn't react to Bournemouth making changes when we were leading 2 nil??

Damn YOU FARHAD!!!!

 

[GrandOldTeam]

here you go mate, seeing as nobody wanted him prior
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And yes, Dyche inherited a destroyed club. Was it the clubs fault as to why he didn't react to Bournemouth making changes when we were leading 2 nil??

Damn YOU FARHAD!!!!

To be fair to @Mikey_Fitzgerald - Dyche had Burnley finishing above us and in Europe then/when we were sacking Koeman.

I still stand by the point,

Don't really get the point Chris?

Back in 2021 nobody wanted Dyche to be Everton manager.

Nobody has ever really wanted Dyche to be Everton manager.

He wouldn't be Everton manager if we weren't a basketcase - he said so himself - day one.

He was brought in to see us through a terrible period. He's close to doing that - I think he's done a great job at that, all considered, but the wheels are coming off now. He'd have gone in the summer and was being replaced by Rangnick if TFG didn't walk away.

 

[nsno-chris]

To be fair to @Mikey_Fitzgerald - Dyche just Burnley finishing above us when we were sacking Koeman.

I still stand by the point,

So, even though TWO people, in that screen shot wanted Dyche, you're still standing by your claim that nobody wanted him

Amazing, Sean Dyche approach to this argument. Dismiss all evidence in favour of your reality

 

[MikeH72]

To be fair to @Mikey_Fitzgerald - Dyche had Burnley finishing above us and in Europe then/when we were sacking Koeman.

I still stand by the point,

Why didn’t he get loads of votes in that poll then?