2021/22 Frank Lampard

[maccavennie]

Dear Frank

You know what needs doing

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maccavennie

 

[Zatara]

Undoubtedly this was the single biggest own goal. No player is going to give his all for a manager or try to learn the new manager's systems and ideas - what's the point, they were thinking. He'll be gone in a few weeks ... they [the fans] already hate him. It so obviously undermined Benitez from the beginning.

The major critics of Benitez will not recognise this though. That yes, their over the top actions, contributed to the malaise that the club is in this season. It won't be the reason we go down, but they were a giant wrecking ball. Indeed it likely also had the consequence of making Benitez and his staff think 'why should we bother giving our all?' Do these fans realise how poisonous they were to the running of the club? A genuine question to any of them. Do they think they have any blame at all in this?

I got a couple of middle fingers, but no answers to the questions above ...

Well, you can run but you can't hide. If we get relegated will you admit it then? Or are you hoping we can squeak to safety this season believing that despite the poison your conscience is clear - it didn't fatally injure Everton? We shall soon know. Ignore of course that it made the club's supporters look like the mafia hounding this fella and his family.

Spot on mate. Its the fans fault that the players didnt perform under Benitez.

Not his ineptitude in the transfer market last summer.

Not him ripping up Davide Ancelotti's effective set piece tactics

Not his terrible in play tactics or substitutions

Not him alientating players


Nothing to do with Benitez.

 

[nsno-chris]

Undoubtedly this was the single biggest own goal. No player is going to give his all for a manager or try to learn the new manager's systems and ideas - what's the point, they were thinking. He'll be gone in a few weeks ... they [the fans] already hate him. It so obviously undermined Benitez from the beginning.

The major critics of Benitez will not recognise this though. That yes, their over the top actions, contributed to the malaise that the club is in this season. It won't be the reason we go down, but they were a giant wrecking ball. Indeed it likely also had the consequence of making Benitez and his staff think 'why should we bother giving our all?' Do these fans realise how poisonous they were to the running of the club? A genuine question to any of them. Do they think they have any blame at all in this?

Hi loaf head,

I’d like to call absolute BS on the post. The argument sort of falls apart because the players were following his system, hence our ok start to the season.

However, as history would prove, once things go against him he’s unable, or unwilling to adapt to new ideas, and doubles down on his stubbornness.

That’s why we gained 4 points from a potential 30. And fans like you were happy to watch the club implode due to monumental mismanagement from him and the nobhead above.

 

[HeltSkelt]

Don't get the constant Benitez vs Lampard thing. There is not a better/worse. Both are/were garbage, not up to the job. Benitez should not have been appointed and was tolerated for too long. Lampard should never have been appointed.

 

[BlueToff]

Crowds was the reason. They would have made an enormous difference to our home and away form

But honestly I'm not sure mate

Like in that Sheff Utd game we created quite a few good chances and just missed them - remember that one James set up for Richy that Dom then somehow missed on the rebound?

Villa, we were a shambles at the back, same as with that Burnley game.

It's much too simple to say it was just the crowds

 

[BlueToff]

Benitez said he couldnt spend before selling players -- thats common sense as the squad is bloated.

He also said he was unable to sell players which is plain stupid.

So if he had put DCL up for sale at £5mil there wouldnt have been buyers???? Of course we wouldnt do that but theres always a middle ground and plenty of rumours we asked £60mil for DCL but West Ham and others would only go to £50mil.

Everything about his tactics and squad management pointed to someone that hadnt done their homework.



Ive been talking about Guimaraes for 2 years or so.

But this summer I think Thelwell will be working under a Lampard 'template' of types of players that would fit into his tactics -- then I think we'll be after those who are behind someone like Guimaraes in terms or age and development.

Arsenal went for White, Ramsdale, Odegaard, Tomiyasu, Lokonga and Tavares for a total of £150mil.

In theory, Pickford, Mina, Keane, Holgate, Gomes, Doucoure, Allan, Gbamin, Gray, Richarlison, DCL...doing an early Kean deal and out of contract players leaving should bring in enough funds that we could bring in:

GK
2× CB
2×CM
1WF
2 CF

Lampard improved players like Tomori, Mount, Gilmour, Abraham, James.

Its not only Chelsea that have a monopoly of these types of high potential players...

Like if Pickford leaves we go for Bazunu at City...if he cost £15mil and they want a £30-40mil buyback then do the deal, or take him on a 2 year loan.

Im really confident in Thelwell to focus on the type Lampard wants...and for Lampard to be able to develop them.

Thats why I think weve hired both of them.

Zatman if we stay up we are not selling 7 first-team players in one summer.

 

[Ufotone]

Go do the business Frank.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Zatman if we stay up we are not selling 7 first-team players in one summer.

We absolutely should

 

[BlueToff]

Don't get the constant Benitez vs Lampard thing. There is not a better/worse. Both are/were garbage, not up to the job. Benitez should not have been appointed and was tolerated for too long. Lampard should never have been appointed.

Why is Lampard not up to the job?

At home Everton have performed (relatively) well. They have been mightily unfortunate in that City game and if the referee/VAR had done their jobs correctly you could be looking at one home defeat since his arrival. He has got the fans on side at Goodison which was vitally needed.

Away has been poor but in the last two away games in the league Lampard's set ups have been bang on. His subs left things to be desired but what has cost Everton points that were warranted based on the performances were stupid mistakes from crap players who need to be punted from the club as quick as is humanly possible.

 

[Zatara]

Zatman if we stay up we are not selling 7 first-team players in one summer.

We absolutely should

I think we will.

 

[BlueToff]

We absolutely should

We need to get rid of the tosh in the squad first and then you can think about selling more first teamers.

Allan will probably go because of his age/contract though there's no reason why he can't be very good in a Lampard team playing a proper 4-3-3. It's what he did at Napoli where he was brilliant. And generally he's performed well under Lampard.

Gray - he's been poor recently but there's no vital need to sell him at all.

One of Rich/DCL will go if we stay up but that's two huge holes to fill in one summer where money is still going to be tight.

Mina might have to go because of his contract but it's much more urgent to bin Keane and Holgate isn't it...

Everton need to raise £50m as it is just to stay within P&S this summer. That's £50m without even been able to reinvest it into the squad, mate.

So we have Delph, Tosun, Kenny, Sigurdsson all set to leave on frees. Their wages going helps but we'll still need a big sale and of that big sale hardly any of it can be reinvested. You can't then strip away the better players of an admittedly poor bunch and expect us to be tons better next season either.

 

[DualityNSNO]

I think we will.

I think we should rightfully try.

Who buys who though?

 

[BlueToff]

I think we will.

Mina may go because of his contract but it may just be worth keeping him for the final year tbh because when he plays our defence is so much better. Still need another CB to come in regardless.

Allan/Doucoure - one of them may go, probably Allan. But as it is we need at least one midfielder so that's gonna mean two coming in, possibly three.

We know we're going to need to replace one of Dom/Rich.

As for Pickford, unless Everton go down there is simply not a market for him that would make it worth selling our only consistent performer.

It's a lot to do in one summer for a club that has a) no friggin money and b) would have to rebuild an entire squad in one window

Rebuilding in one window simply does not work

 

[ToffeeTim]

We need to get rid of the tosh in the squad first and then you can think about selling more first teamers.

Allan will probably go because of his age/contract though there's no reason why he can't be very good in a Lampard team playing a proper 4-3-3. It's what he did at Napoli where he was brilliant. And generally he's performed well under Lampard.

Gray - he's been poor recently but there's no vital need to sell him at all.

One of Rich/DCL will go if we stay up but that's two huge holes to fill in one summer where money is still going to be tight.

Mina might have to go because of his contract but it's much more urgent to bin Keane and Holgate isn't it...

Everton need to raise £50m as it is just to stay within P&S this summer. That's £50m without even been able to reinvest it into the squad, mate.

So we have Delph, Tosun, Kenny, Sigurdsson all set to leave on frees. Their wages going helps but we'll still need a big sale and of that big sale hardly any of it can be reinvested. You can't then strip away the better players of an admittedly poor bunch and expect us to be tons better next season either.

We need to make everyone available and sell as many as possible. Anything other than a complete rebuild won't work.

 

[BlueToff]

People really aren't getting that a good chunk of funds we raise this summer will not be redirected back into recruitment.

We need to appease P&S.