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  1. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    No Dave, I'm not saying it wasn't because you didn't check from where the quote came in your eagerness, but, it was the only source and you gleefully referenced it.
  2. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    Whoa what Dave? You were quite quick to claim vindication for your opinion that he will go on loan when you saw the reports.
  3. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    I don't know so much Dave, judging him on one game, be it Blackpool or Kiev, will not give you a true picture. I'm not convinced by him, yet, but, I can see potential there. I judge players by watching them play, rather than spreadsheets or heat maps or whatever. I've seen enough to know that...
  4. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    He's quick, has a great engine and runs with the ball at full pace very comfortably. Will he get caught out of position? Undoubtedly. At his age, is that something Ashley Cole and Leighton Baines can improve on the training ground? I'm pretty sure it is. The, admittedly few, games I have...
  5. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    I'd be amazed if he goes out on loan, I think he will start the season as number 2 to Coleman and will gradually, over the first 3 months of the season, become first choice.
  6. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    Depends Dave, I still have a feeling the long term plan is 3 at the back, in which case Patterson, with his pace and mobility, may well prove to be exactly what we need. Who knows at this stage?
  7. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    True Dave, but, you've just expressed a wish to have Aarons rather than Patterson at the club, now, I haven't seen enough of Patterson to know just how good or bad he will be, I think I've seen him 3 times with Scotland, but, I've seen more than enough of Aarons to know that he should not be an...
  8. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    Dave, if you're concerned about Patterson's defending, have you ever seen Aarons play? He is absolutely terrible defensively, he's far too lightweight as we!!.
  9. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    Desperate times call for desperate measures. I would consider trying Paterson and Gordon on the right, Godfrey and Gray on the left and Richarlison up front with DCL on the bench. We I'll probably lose against West Ham anyway, but, at least this would give us blistering pace along both flanks...
  10. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    Yes, I like Lampard, I just think he'll struggle to keep this shower up.
  11. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    Oh I think there is quite a bit of new data Dave, not least the fact that Coleman and Kenny have been part of a defence which has conceded 9 goals in our last 2 aways. He's tried a back 3, a back 4 and even,at times a back 5 and still we concede at an alarming rate. Perhaps he is reaching the...
  12. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    Correct and, at this moment in time, unless you have a crystal ball, neither you nor I know for sure what his opinion is. Remember how sure you were about knowing Moshiri's opinion on Benitez, a couple of days before he sacked him. For an intelligent person, when the available facts change...
  13. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    No Dave, my argument is with the fact that, as usual, you are trying to put your opinion across as fact. You can't possibly say that Patterson can't play fullback in the prem until he has been given a chance, you can say that you don't think he can, but, that is opinion not fact. I would...
  14. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    Or, give a full back who is quick enough to recover when an attack breaks down. You will not know what his defending is like at this level until he plays. Anything you says pure conjecture as he has not played a league game for us. I don't know if he is good enough either, but,I will not...
  15. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    We won't know unless he plays. Can it get worse than conceding 9 in 2 away games?
  16. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    I wouldn't be too sure about that Dave. Don't forget your last big certainty. I remember you gleefully telling us all, after the Digne sale, that 'Benitez is going nowhere, our owner has backed him and given him 100% control.' Benitez was sacked a few days later. Conceding 9 goals in 2 games...
  17. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    Don't know about that Dave, we already know what Kenny can do and we have seen that it is not good enough, he is ok, but limited. If we rest Coleman for this game, and I hope we do, as we are unlikely to come away with anything anyway, this is the ideal time to try Patterson. Coleman and Kenny...
  18. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    I don't think it's too much of a gamble against West Ham away Dave. We're hardly likely to get anything there anyway, and, our defending can hardly be any worse than in our last two away games, in which we have conceded 9 goals. It also means that, should Ireland not injure him, we keep...
  19. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    I'd honestly give him a try against West Ham, we're conceding for fun away from home, so he will hardly weaken us defensively, conceded 9 in our last 2 away games,. I just feel that his pace would give opposing teams something to think about. I'd also play Godfrey at left back and bring in...
  20. roy vernon

    2021/22 Nathan Patterson

    No mate, he's orange, but not an orange man, more like an orange cat. I don't think Dave can be described as an orange man.?
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