£40m Bid Made For Sigurdsson

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Haven't read the article yet but it's Sigurdsson related: http://www.skysports.com/football/n...to-everton-is-the-swansea-man-value-for-money

Swansea's Gylfi Sigurdsson has been linked with a £50m move to Everton. The Iceland international boasts some impressive statistics, but could they be misleading? Adam Bate delves deeper into the data to find out.

There is no doubt that Gylfi Sigurdsson played a key role in Swansea's survival. With nine goals and 13 assists, he was directly involved in more of the Swans' strikes than any other player, scoring winners against Liverpool and Southampton and a late equaliser at Old Trafford. He was duly named player of the season by both supporters and team-mates.


So perhaps it should be no surprise that Everton are interested in taking Sigurdsson to Goodison Park. They will be further encouraged by the fact that the 28-year-old attacking midfielder covered more ground than any other Premier League player last season. He ranked third in the country for assists and was seventh for total chances created.


But curiously, there are doubts about the robustness and repeatability of what Sigurdsson achieved at Swansea. In particular, a deeper look at those assists raises issues. According to Opta, although Sigurdsson registered 13 of them, the number of goals that Swansea might have expected to score from the opportunities he fashioned last season was only 6.85.

What are expected assists?
Opta says: “The Expected Assist Model measure the likelihood that a pass will be a goal assist based on where the pass was received, what type of pass it was and a variety of other factors.”

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Sigurdsson's expected assists were nowhere near his actual tally
The reason for this is that the quality of chance being created by Sigurdsson was not particularly high. This is largely because an extraordinarily high number of them came from set-pieces rather than open play. Fifty-two of the chances Sigurdsson created were from dead-ball situations - nobody else in the Premier League could come up with more than 40.

In fact, Sigurdsson was credited with 38 chances created from corner kicks alone. There are a number of reasons why this could be problematic. While Sigurdsson's delivery is undoubtedly impressive, these are generally considered difficult opportunities to convert - often headers that are being won under pressure amidst a crowd of bodies.

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Sigurdsson created more chances from set plays than anyone else
That the number is so high surely owes much to the abilities of his targets in the penalty box. Eleven of those chances created from corners found their way to 6'4" striker Fernando Llorente, renowned for his heading ability. A further 13 were to Alfie Mawson, a young defender who scored seven goals in a season at both Barnsley and Wycombe Wanderers.

Next on the list? That's Mawson's fellow defender Federico Fernandez. Indeed, defenders were the recipients of the majority of these chances - a reflection of the fact that more than two thirds of all chances created by Sigurdsson were headers. Fernandez got on the end of five corners without finding the net. In fact, only one of them was even on target.

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Sigurdsson enjoyed arguably the best season of his career in 2016/17
Just because Llorente, Mawson and Fernandez are capable of diverting an outswinging corner in the general direction of the goal - and 28 of these 38 chances were from right-wing corners - does not necessarily mean the numbers are transferable to another club. Tellingly, only three of these corners actually resulted directly in Swansea goals.

Of course, expertise from set plays is not a negative. The fact that Swansea ranked in the top three in the Premier League for both headed and set-piece goals was a huge factor in their survival. Everton would surely look to put Sigurdsson on corners and free-kicks in the expectation that he can help to boost their own numbers in this regard.

Moreover, the fact that this skill is such a big part of Sigurdsson's game adds context to the question marks over his age relative to his price. While he could be on the cusp of a downturn in output at 28, his set-piece delivery is unlikely to suffer into this thirties. That will bring confidence that he will be a useful asset for the full length of his next contract.

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Swansea boss Paul Clement admits Sigurdsson could leave
However, it is vital that Everton appreciate what they would be getting for their £50m investment. While the headline numbers put Sigurdsson in the top bracket of Premier League creators alongside Kevin De Bruyne, Christian Eriksen, Mesut Ozil and David Silva, the type and quality of the chances they supply for team-mates are actually very different.

To illustrate the point further, there are 71 players who created more open-play chances than Sigurdsson in the Premier League last season. That included Kevin Mirallas and three other Everton players. Ross Barkley created 54 such chances. Sigurdsson managed only 25 - the same number that Gareth Barry and Idrissa Gueye produced in fewer games.

Even from set plays, it is uncertain how much of an impact that Sigurdsson might have at Everton given that Barkley, Mirallas and Baines shared the team's set-piece duties last term, creating 51 opportunities in the process - only one fewer than Sigurdsson. A quality player then, but one whose £50m signature comes with considerable caveats. Buyer beware.

Yet Nabi Keita, who is a holding midfielder with one season in the Bundesliga under his belt, is a bargain at £70m :P
 
Again though, this comes down to backing the manager.

He may have decided already that he was going to go with Williams, Keane, Mori and Holgate as CB options for the first part of the season, however the injury to Mori may mean he brings another in now.

I wouldn't be surprised to see another brought in, would you?

As for a striker, we know another will come in, we have been told that. It's only the middle of July, we are by far the most active team in the market thus far, is this not a case of you being impatient and demanding signings in the positions YOU think need strengthening now and not going with the managers judgement?

Is there any point in this forum or discussion if we should simply shut up and back the manager? Did you back the manager at Spurs away last year? Managers are not infallible and can make mistakes. I even said if he signs then I'll be behind him 100% and I hope he fires us to glory. Notice how I say hope.

Let me flip the question to you? Are you happy with our CB options? Are you happy with our forward options? Or is dissent not allowed in Jonestown? If they pass you any Kool-Aid just drink it up mannnn.
 
But the top 6 all have a player or two in that playmaking role already.

Coutinho
Ozil
Eriksen
Hazard
Mkhi
Mata
Silva
De Bruyne.

If they didn't, they'd be after Sigurdsson, I'm sure of it, simply because these players are an endangered species.
He's a good player but he's not in that class. No, I don't know any better alternatives.

You either try and find a player from lower leagues,or use the academy, or you use the cheque book and buy a player, but the fees required are incredible.
 

He's a good player but he's not in that class. No, I don't know any better alternatives.

You either try and find a player from lower leagues,or use the academy, or you use the cheque book and buy a player, but the fees required are incredible.
Would you have put Coutinho or Eriksen in that class before he signed for the respective clubs though mate?
Sometimes good players need equally talented team mates to show their real quality. Sig' doesn't have that currently which is why he stands out so much.
 
Another poster above you listed a name of similar players at other clubs. All transferred in from outside this country. I honestly don't buy into this whole difficulty adapting thing. Quality is quality, whatever the league. The league is probably the most diverse in Europe and each season it shows.

I just can't get behind this deal completely- especially in a world where Coutinho cost 8.5 million.

Coutinho cost that in 2012, though. Before the huge influx of TV money - and it's not comparable.

Gylfi's stats are up there with Ozil, De Bruyne, Coutinho and Silva in terms of assists, goals, chances created etc etc in the last two years. You would pay £40m for all of those players.
 
Would you have put Coutinho or Eriksen in that class before he signed for the respective clubs though mate?
Sometimes good players need equally talented team mates to show their real quality. Sig' doesn't have that currently which is why he stands out so much.

Agree about the team mates. However both those other players were young and are still yet to have properly peaked despite already being quality. The Sig should be in his prime already. And he has absolutely no re sale value for us. Of course if we win trophies and make the champions league it's a good investment. That's a big if.
 

I don't believe he is worth £50 mill. I am not sure anyone is but in today's football money doesn't appear to have the same value it has in the real world.
With Sigurdsson you know what you are buying. We know what we will get. He is the finished article.
He would improve our starting eleven.
I think we have put ourselves in a position where we now have to buy him, we have spent big and decisively so far to have pursued Sigurdsson so openly up to now is it a failure if we fail to secure him. Are we back to the plucky Everton days. Another issue is what effect does it have on the relationship between board and manager.
I would be concerned that if we don't buy him it will have ramifications beyond just bringing in a player.
 
To be fair Naby Keita is absolute quality. Plus I can't see the RS getting him anyway.

He is only 22 as well. Siggurdson will be 28 by the time the season starts so there is no long term sell on. I just think we say thanks but no thanks on this one. Let Leicester have him and take Mahrez off Leicester. Mahrez is 26 so if he does not work out we can still sell for a good fee next summer. The form he showed during the Title winning season is a level above Siggurdson or any player we currently have on our books
 
In a negotiation, for a fair deal both parties need to come away not 100% happy.
The figure that would start to make me unhappy is 40m nevermind 50, so Swansea can cry and moan all they want claiming phantom Leicester bids.

I cannot see it being over 40.
 

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