I can also name 2 PL-players who went to new PL clubs and did nothing for every 1 that was a success. It's a total fallacy imo.
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I can also name 2 PL-players who went to new PL clubs and did nothing for every 1 that was a success. It's a total fallacy imo.
Titus Bramble
Best centre half to grace the Premier League
Paul E
Player Valuation: £1m
Appreciate the feedback and opinion mate but, as I say, he's never stood out to me and I watch a lot of football.
Same applies to both though. Torres was 'PL proven' when he tanked at Chelsea, a thousand players at Liverpool, Beattie with us, the list goes on and on and on. It's just a made up thing.
No but you can have much more certainty buying proven PL players than unproven ones
That's why there is a premium to be paid for a proven PL player.
City just paid 25 m or thereabouts for a stand in full back if the Monaco lad doesn't work out
If Siva doesn't cut it they have plenty of options
We all wanted Nolito 3/4 years ago
Didn't work out for city and after 1 season he was sold for a major loss
If Walsh done that he'd be castigated on here
You don't need to justify it to me, I'm not saying he'd be a bad signing.
I've said before that I think the prices quoted are obscene and we should be able to find someone else for a fraction of the cost, but if the management team want him then fine.
rochdaleblue
Player Valuation: £50m
For every de Bruyne, silva, aguero, Toure,
There's a: mangala, otamendi, navas, negrado
Also another point to consider, the club at present isn't able to attract the players of the top box. We'd been buying 'unknown quality' from the second list of players, with the hope they are as good as de Bruyne, et al.
Exactly which is why we are paying a premium for Siggy
He's about the best we can realistically attract
People go on about Mahrez
He sat on the bench for a year or so before coming good
Seen players confidence knocked too many times because of our fans
Professor Toffee
On and on, over the hill and the craic is good
Bags of then
Sorry to be pedantic but:
Mahrez signed in January 2014, came off the bench 4 times and then started almost every game.
KevMirallas
Player Valuation: £35m
Titus Bramble
Best centre half to grace the Premier League
This thread is a thing of beauty.
I particularly like the fact people are bemoaning Moshiri not spending any money in a thread about us bidding £40million+ for a player
I particularly like the fact people are bemoaning Moshiri not spending any money in a thread about us bidding £40million+ for a player
I guess my point is, look at how good Southampton would be if they had the money/standing to be able to keep every player:
Forster
Clyne Alderweireld VVD Shaw
Wanyama Schneiderlin
Bale Lallana Oxlade
Walcott
Stupid formation obviously, but the point is, we can follow that model (invest heavily in a modern cutting edge scouting setup - except we could invest even more and make it even better, and be able to get a level above the targets they were able to - I guarantee they identified even better players who they weren't quite able to get) and then not have to sell the players (and also ideally not end up hiring a cack manager). There's better examples on the continent (Leipzig, Monaco) but but this is a Prem team so easier parallel.
On the other hand, Moshiri has stated he sees there being a short window where we need to bridge the gap NOW, which is what I see as presumably the justification for Sigurdsson/Rooney etc. That sort of short-termism is what makes me uncomfortable, and I don't know why he sees such a small window, but he must know something we don't, so hey-ho, it's just kinda bizarre because it flies in the face of every other success story of recent times.
Also it's possible that the above is happening concurrently anyway with Unsy's U23 buys and players like Onyekuru, so who knows, it may pan out that we're getting the best of both anyway
Forster
Clyne Alderweireld VVD Shaw
Wanyama Schneiderlin
Bale Lallana Oxlade
Walcott
Stupid formation obviously, but the point is, we can follow that model (invest heavily in a modern cutting edge scouting setup - except we could invest even more and make it even better, and be able to get a level above the targets they were able to - I guarantee they identified even better players who they weren't quite able to get) and then not have to sell the players (and also ideally not end up hiring a cack manager). There's better examples on the continent (Leipzig, Monaco) but but this is a Prem team so easier parallel.
On the other hand, Moshiri has stated he sees there being a short window where we need to bridge the gap NOW, which is what I see as presumably the justification for Sigurdsson/Rooney etc. That sort of short-termism is what makes me uncomfortable, and I don't know why he sees such a small window, but he must know something we don't, so hey-ho, it's just kinda bizarre because it flies in the face of every other success story of recent times.
Also it's possible that the above is happening concurrently anyway with Unsy's U23 buys and players like Onyekuru, so who knows, it may pan out that we're getting the best of both anyway
Toffeeslam
Player Valuation: £35m
There are people saying Morshiri isn't spending any money ??
lollollol
Same people angry at RK cause Ross Barkley won't sign a new contract.
Everton that
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