£40m Bid Made For Sigurdsson

[kenada_blue]

And he sent those players out on loan to deliberately leave us short at the back

No. But it's clearly an issue that needs to be looked at as this farce carries on

 

[Brisan123]

I'd sack them if they came back with Sigurdsson for £45m.

If he played like he did last season and was 22 years old then perhaps.

£45m buys you anyone outside of the elite in any league in the world.

With no PL experience
Why can't people see this
We can't afford to give a player six months to settle , to get over homesickness , to wait till his family moves over and settle
We need players to hit the ground running.
If Sandro and Klassen don't settle we play Rooney and Davies till they do

 

[kenada_blue]

Technique wise, there is no question who is the better player. Regardless of how good Ozil is he is still one footed. And Sigurdsson basically matches him on it in regards to through balls and is even better than him at crossing or shooting on his left.



Ozil isn't extremely fast but he is faster than Sigurdsson, and relies on it. Once he loses it due to old age or injuries he simply wont be the same player as he is today.

Sigurdsson however, does not rely on pace. His whole style of football relies around being slow, and he can play more positions.

Also, Sigurdsson's prime only just begun. And not every player worsens by age, just look at Zidane at 34.



Sigurdsson relies even less on pace than him, and has been much less injured. There is no doubt in my mind that Sigurdsson can play at this level for another 8-10 years.







Williams starts for Arsenal over either CB, or at least from what I saw during his last season at Swansea. He started over Cahill for Chelsea, maybe Lindelof for United, either CB for Liverpool, either CB for City. The only team he wouldn't start for is Spurs.

Baines starts for any team that doesn't have Danny Rose in it, possibly even Mendy for City.

Jagielka is finished in regards to playing 38 matches per season, he's would walk into Liverpool's XI. And maybe play for City/Arsenal.

''and even funes mori when he finally comes back'' But even he would start for Liverpool, not sure about any other team.

Mods?

 

[Brisan123]

No. But it's clearly an issue that needs to be looked at as this farce carries on

If you and me can see this ,do you not think Walsh and Koeman can too

 

[SiggyTheBlue]

Mods?

 

[Deckard2049]

I'd sack them if they came back with Sigurdsson for £45m.

If he played like he did last season and was 22 years old then perhaps.

£45m buys you anyone outside of the elite in any league in the world.

I think the problem is Sigurdsson was most likely identified as a target quite a while ago, and crucially long before this window started and the transfer fees became ridiculous. If we'd been doing our job correctly and planning for this window well in advance then I have no doubt koeman singled him out and he and Walsh probably anticipated a fee of around 30 million would seal the deal, as it would have done every other transfer window in history. As it is, we're in the middle of the craziest window ever where Man City are paying 50 million for full backs and where Leicester opened up the bidding on Sigurdsson for 40 million.

30-35 million, and I don't think anyone in here would have a problem. But 50, regardless of how the fee is split between up front and add ons seems overpriced.i do wish we'd cast our net a bit wider than the premier league though (yes I know we signed klaasen) , it seems inevitable if you shop in England you get ripped off. If we took 45 million to the continent surely we could get some better value for money?

 

[blulouie]

It's time to be failed to be impressed with anything other than silverware.

We've been doing the 'things are going ok' stuff for years. It gets you nowhere. The club owners and their helpers love all that. They get off the hook way too easily at this club. Our fanbase is way too sentimental and gush over anything that the club owners do.

We should be ruthless as fans:

Get a stadium build started in your first two years here or get lost
Get spending cash (not just recycling player sale cash) and have two massive net spend windows in your first two summers or get lost
Get us a trophy in that same time span or get lost

Hold their feet to the fire and never let up on them. If you dont do that and they'll take the piss as they always have done.

This feller in charge right now = just another in the long line of people like Kenwright, Gregg and Earl. I see no distinction essentially. He can prove me wrong anytime he wants like. But as things stand - three windows almost into his tenure I see nothing from him that persuades me he will.

Big Dave back on the scene.

He's back with a bang , got a bigger & better trawler and he's casting his net far & wide with ruthless abandon....be careful little pilchards he's coming for you


Siggy on?

 

[kenada_blue]

If you and me can see this ,do you not think Walsh and Koeman can too

Yeah. They brought in Martina.

Hopefully that's not it...

 

[kenada_blue]

This is what, the 4th or 5th time you've made a post exactly like this? Not contributing to the thread, and questioning the mods?

Mo.....dz?

 

[kenada_blue]

It's time to be failed to be impressed with anything other than silverware.

We've been doing the 'things are going ok' stuff for years. It gets you nowhere. The club owners and their helpers love all that. They get off the hook way too easily at this club. Our fanbase is way too sentimental and gush over anything that the club owners do.

We should be ruthless as fans:

Get a stadium build started in your first two years here or get lost
Get spending cash (not just recycling player sale cash) and have two massive net spend windows in your first two summers or get lost
Get us a trophy in that same time span or get lost

Hold their feet to the fire and never let up on them. If you dont do that and they'll take the piss as they always have done.

This feller in charge right now = just another in the long line of people like Kenwright, Gregg and Earl. I see no distinction essentially. He can prove me wrong anytime he wants like. But as things stand - three windows almost into his tenure I see nothing from him that persuades me he will.

I'm in the same boat.

 

[everton2004]

I think the problem is Sigurdsson was most likely identified as a target quite a while ago, and crucially long before this window started and the transfer fees became ridiculous. If we'd been doing our job correctly and planning for this window well in advance then I have no doubt koeman singled him out and he and Walsh probably anticipated a fee of around 30 million would seal the deal, as it would have done every other transfer window in history. As it is, we're in the middle of the craziest window ever where Man City are paying 50 million for full backs and where Leicester opened up the bidding on Sigurdsson for 40 million.

30-35 million, and I don't think anyone in here would have a problem. But 50, regardless of how the fee is split between up front and add ons seems overpriced.i do wish we'd cast our net a bit wider than the premier league though (yes I know we signed klaasen) , it seems inevitable if you shop in England you get ripped off. If we took 45 million to the continent surely we could get some better value for money?

You probably would, but find one:

• Who is as good as Sigurdsson for the money
• Who is proven in the Prem
• Would come here considering no CL

Spending huge sums on players with no PL experience is a huge risk.

 

[ProZ]

I think Sigurdsson is a game changer, capable of elevating Everton to the next level.



Somewhat true but his movement, aerial ability and first touch is currently miles ahead of Rooney's.

I would prefer him in the box defend set pieces over Rooney, I would prefer him in linkup play over Rooney, I would prefer him receiving the ball & running down the flanks or towards the box than Rooney.

But other than that? He's a goal scorer like you said, and that's his only job. Everything else is just a bonus IMO.



Because apparently he's only good at taking set pieces and is worse in open play than Ross barkley and about 70 other Players in the league. Lol.



You wont see him score, assist, through ball, cross or pass the ball like Sigurdsson does in any of those clips.

In fact, you wont find any other Playmaker on the planet doing this like him.



That would be implying that I care about your opinion.

As you do.

 

[Toffeepot]

I'm using the logic of the post I'm replying to, not judging him myself.

The point was that Sigurdsson was a 'bridging player' ie not good enough to take us to the level we really desire, but good enough to improve us at the moment. It's a fair point, and it's what City did with the likes of Lescott, Bellamy and Barry. In response I was saying that if that works, we'll have done what City did, and replaced those bridging players with top class players. If it doesn't work then he isn't a bridging player, and we're paying £50m for someone to take us from 7th to 6th.

7th to 6th is 2mil straight away per season as well as a much more likely europa league spot which then generates millions more per season from the competition itself and marketing. If in your worst case scenario he gets us an extra place in the league he'll be worth it! keep in mind we will be selling players who don't, recouping that 50mil...we have done such good business so far, Rooney & Sandro & 85mil for Lukaku that paying a little over the usual for a team's star player has to be worth it. 50mil wouldn't even cover Swansea's losses were they to go down without him, that has to be taken into account when negotiating the fee as you can be sure Swansea are thinking it

 

[rochdaleblue]

I think the problem is Sigurdsson was most likely identified as a target quite a while ago, and crucially long before this window started and the transfer fees became ridiculous. If we'd been doing our job correctly and planning for this window well in advance then I have no doubt koeman singled him out and he and Walsh probably anticipated a fee of around 30 million would seal the deal, as it would have done every other transfer window in history. As it is, we're in the middle of the craziest window ever where Man City are paying 50 million for full backs and where Leicester opened up the bidding on Sigurdsson for 40 million.

30-35 million, and I don't think anyone in here would have a problem. But 50, regardless of how the fee is split between up front and add ons seems overpriced.i do wish we'd cast our net a bit wider than the premier league though (yes I know we signed klaasen) , it seems inevitable if you shop in England you get ripped off. If we took 45 million to the continent surely we could get some better value for money?

Still the same problem even if you shop abroad. As soon as they see a premier league club coming, clubs hike up their prices. Mendy for 52m as a starting point.
Whether you get better value for your money shopping abroad remains to be seen. A proven premier league player currently adds about 10m to the price tag it seems.

 

[BlueToff]

9 of his 10 assists in 2014/15 were in open play. 5 of his 7 goals were in open play too.



If you've watched Sigurdsson at all prior to last season, you would know that he hasn't always been regarded as a set piece specialist. In fact it was considered one of his weaknesses until Llorente signed in 16/17.

I wouldn't say it's ever been considered a weakness. He's always been renowned as taking a good set-piece.

But there is A LOT more to his game than just that.