15 mill pound player!

[Neiler]

No, I'm just repeating the allegation. The only ones who really know the truth are Bill Kenwright and Philip Green. The truth I suspect, though, is that Bill sold all his back catalogue of Roy of the Rovers, took back all his empty lemonade bottles, felt down the back of his couch, and sold all 8 pints of his own blood to fund his wedge of Everton shares. That'll be it.

A repeated allegation by whom, or just more anti bill folklore?

You make it sound as if people were batting down the door to invest back in the day Bill got lucky eh! Its a pity all those billionaires tripping over themselves to buy us at the moment werent around when Kenwright took over.

Hes a bad egg is Bill, clearly the Spurs method is the way to go.

 

[Neiler]

Yes, but he didn't. He said let somebody like Lerner in who could provide a budget of £30m a season, which somebody like Lerner couldn't do. As you say, only an Arab prince or the like could provide that.

And yes, I would be behind selling the club to an Arab prince to bring the world's best players to the club. A tiny little part of me would die, though.

But do we know any Arab princes who would be interested? Do they have a message board like this one, where they say things like "lolz I bought a new jet!!!! iz soooooooo coooooool", where we could ask them to buy into the club?

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This lad has it, what ever it is this boy has it! Great posts mate!

 

[Cal]

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This lad has it, what ever it is this boy has it! Great posts mate!

You'll understand next season, mate.

 

[lordyefc]

You dont need an Arab price to spend £30m a season, you just need somebody to inject a little bit of money and pay off the debts, improve the current squad with 2-3 Top drawer players, then when your getting CL football year in year out and your taking 30m-40m a season off UEFA and filling the stadium week in week out £30m will the least you could afford.

Which is fine, but a couple of things to remember:

(1) Paying off the debts and buying a few top drawer players would cost £60m to £100m in the first season, plus the annual wages, of somebodies own personal money. Of all the owners in the Premier League, only Man City and Chelsea have owners actually putting money into the club (for all the publicity the owners of West Ham, Villa, Portsmouth etc get they are all just doing what Everton are doing - apart from the ones who are actually taking money out of the club), so finding someone to do that clearly isn't as easy as some would like to think.

(2) Spending £30m a year obviously increases the wage budget a lot. Given we are broke at the moment, this then relies on Champions League income to offset it. If, by some dodgy refereeing decision, we didn't make the Champions League one year, we'd be making a huge loss which we'd have to sell players to make up, Leeds United style.


I'm not saying that we shouldn't go for glory, that we should settle for being 6th forever. But let's not oversimplify and say that all we need to do is buy a few players which will guarentee us Champions League football forever - if it were that simple, teams with bigger incomes that us (either due to bigger crowds, e.g. Newcastle or richer fans, e.g. Spurs) would do the same and overtake us anyway.

 

[ForeverEverton]

No thanks, I don't want a body builder playing for us. I'd rather have one of City's footballers.

Richards is one of the worst centre backs in the League.

But quality at RB

 

[ForeverEverton]

Which is fine, but a couple of things to remember:

(1) Paying off the debts and buying a few top drawer players would cost £60m to £100m in the first season, plus the annual wages, of somebodies own personal money. Of all the owners in the Premier League, only Man City and Chelsea have owners actually putting money into the club (for all the publicity the owners of West Ham, Villa, Portsmouth etc get they are all just doing what Everton are doing - apart from the ones who are actually taking money out of the club), so finding someone to do that clearly isn't as easy as some would like to think.

(2) Spending £30m a year obviously increases the wage budget a lot. Given we are broke at the moment, this then relies on Champions League income to offset it. If, by some dodgy refereeing decision, we didn't make the Champions League one year, we'd be making a huge loss which we'd have to sell players to make up, Leeds United style.


I'm not saying that we shouldn't go for glory, that we should settle for being 6th forever. But let's not oversimplify and say that all we need to do is buy a few players which will guarentee us Champions League football forever - if it were that simple, teams with bigger incomes that us (either due to bigger crowds, e.g. Newcastle or richer fans, e.g. Spurs) would do the same and overtake us anyway.

Man City will no doubt buy loads of superstars and in time make the top 4 leaving Liverpool or Arsenal losing their CL money (That could be messy)

 

[Neiler]

You'll understand next season, mate.

What? The pending disaster that hasnt happened? Im quakeing like!

We've seen of Money Bags, West Ham, Spurs, Newcastle, Pompey, Man City. Facts speak louder then projections!

Maybe, just maybe money is part of an equation instead of all of it.

 

[bluesb1970]

Even last season after a purple patch he got found out. He's been playing centre back for most of the season.

He's got all the physical attributes but he doesn't do the basics. He doesn't read the game, he doesn't hold his position and his distribution is average.

He's like a very poor mans Joseph Yobo.

That is because he is a right back. Just what we need in my opinion.

 

[ToxtethBlue]

That is because he is a right back. Just what we need in my opinion.

No he sees himself as a centre back, that's the position he's played over the last two seasons and that's where he sees his future.

He's not very good there either to be be honest. He gets caughts out of position a lot.

 

[Goat]

No he sees himself as a centre back, that's the position he's played over the last two seasons and that's where he sees his future.

He's not very good there either to be be honest. He gets caughts out of position a lot.

Hes still only very young, but i must admit his reading of the game is pretty poor and his tackling is hit and miss, he hasnt really come on as much as i would have thought, but he has had a fair few injuries.

 

[ToxtethBlue]

Hes still only very young, but i must admit his reading of the game is pretty poor and his tackling is hit and miss, he hasnt really come on as much as i would have thought, but he has had a fair few injuries.

He's just not a defender for me, I'm not even sure he's a footballer. He's certainly an athlete, he has great physical ability.

Maybe it's about finding a position where he can develop and learn the game. I couldn't say, at the moment he just looks like very very poor mans Joseph Yobo. Not Yobo now, Yobo when he first arrived from Marseille.

 

[Neiler]

He's just not a defender for me, I'm not even sure he's a footballer. He's certainly an athlete, he has great physical ability.

Maybe it's about finding a position where he can develop and learn the game. I couldn't say, at the moment he just looks like very very poor mans Joseph Yobo. Not Yobo now, Yobo when he first arrived from Marseille.

He has a very long way to go! But hes a player for me, i think people forget just how young he is, young players have dips like this.

 

[Slight_Return]

Looks like paranoia has set

like it, like it a lot. have some rep. cheers.

 

[Slight_Return]

Right, so we've established that two wrongs dont make a right. If Cal had cited in his opening post that Kenwright should do one and be replaced by an Arab prince you'd get behind that?

So you call BK all the names under the sun.

now we are in a position where "two wrongs dont make a right"

in that case, I hate you!

 

[Slight_Return]

You dont need an Arab price to spend £30m a season, you just need somebody to inject a little bit of money and pay off the debts, improve the current squad with 2-3 Top drawer players, then when your getting CL football year in year out and your taking 30m-40m a season off UEFA and filling the stadium week in week out £30m will the least you could afford.

As and when £30 million is a little bit of money for you to pump anywhere, I expect you to be shattering bills eardrums with your knocking on the goodison door.

as for the stadium as it is, its one of the worst in the league, in fact, its possibly in the worst 10% in the prem + the championship.

shame some fuckpigs fail to recognise NSNO in terms like that though.