2015 post UK election discussion

[marty mcfly]

Listen , mate. I'm single through divorce . I have provided for my kids , including the youngest who stayed with his mother . My eldest are 24 and 20. I do NOT receive a penny in benefits . So don't you dare tar all single parents with the same Katie Hopkins-like brush .

If you had been following this thread you would have read that I haven't been and my issue is mostly financial to prevent feckless fathers from impregnating woman and then dumping the cost on the rest of us and the kids without male role models.

However we can't go over all that with every post.

 

[peteblue]

Okay I maybe didn't explain myself too well. The HRA, was brought in to make sure our law was fully compatible with the European Courts. It meant that cases could be heard in domestic courts as opposed to having to go to Strasbourg. The rights will still be there but if we feel that our rights are being breached by and public body we will be back to having to fight for them via Europe, not the UK.
It's plain to see that the Act is incompatible with the soon to be introduced Snoopers Charter for example.

We are a pretty well grown up country who have decency and law as it's central tenets. Do not imagine that we need additional laws to protect our freedom, nor should you decry the necessary needs to ensure that we remain safe in this unstable world.....you would be the first to complain if a terrorist bomb were to go off in your town........

 

[Tree13]

News flash - it has always been expensive and difficult to raise kids. Stop worrying about it and get on with it if that's what you want to do. No amount of money can make up for the time you don't get with them.

If it's always been expensive and difficult to raise kids and we should just stop worrying about it, why are we showing sympathy towards people in this thread who are struggling to raise kids on £20k gross a year? And why are you dismissing the idea that perhaps, for people who don't yet have children, a bit of serious thinking and financial planning should inform and direct any decision to have children?

 

[peteblue]

If you had been following this thread you would have read that I haven't been and my issue is mostly financial to prevent feckless fathers from impregnating woman and then dumping the cost on the rest of us and the kids without male role models.

However we can't go over all that with every post.

Are you saying that Chrissy has been going around impregnating women all over Blackpool.....have you seen how ugly he is.............

 

[chrissyjack]

If you had been following this thread you would have read that I haven't been and my issue is mostly financial to prevent feckless fathers from impregnating woman and then dumping the cost on the rest of us and the kids without male role models.

However we can't go over all that with every post.

So, this childrens licence you advocate . Would the cost depend on the weight of the child at birth ?

 

[peteblue]

So, this childrens licence you advocate . Would the cost depend on the weight of the child at birth ?

A bit like a dog license mate, what breed are you going for.........

 

[marty mcfly]

If you had been following this thread you would have read that I haven't been and my issue is mostly financial to prevent feckless fathers from impregnating woman and then dumping the cost on the rest of us and the kids without male role models.

However we can't go over all that with every post.

Sorry feckless fathers and mothers.

I shouldn't be so sexist.

 

[chrissyjack]

Are you saying that Chrissy has been going around impregnating women all over Blackpool.....have you seen how ugly he is.............

Listen, lad. When the girls of Blackpool have been binge drinking to oblivion , I look like James Dean

 

[chrissyjack]

A bit like a dog license mate, what breed are you going for.........

One around the 6 or 7lb range . Can't afford the extra tax after that

 

[marty mcfly]

If it's always been expensive and difficult to raise kids and we should just stop worrying about it, why are we showing sympathy towards people in this thread who are struggling to raise kids on £20k gross a year? And why are you dismissing the idea that perhaps, for people who don't yet have children, a bit of serious thinking and financial planning should inform and direct any decision to have children?

Because everyone thinks they should have a right to procreate.

 

[Jib in lad]

Good try pal, but I'm not here to tell other people what they should or shouldn't do. All I can say is what I would do.

Because I don't want to be in a position where I am reliant on state support to raise my children, I would not choose to have children before I had saved the amount of cash I felt was sufficient to provide the cushion necessary to compensate for the temporary drop in income that would result from Mrs. Tree taking time off for maternity. Mrs. Tree feels the same way, so we have spent five years saving up, building our careers, buying our house and have got married in the meantime.

Other people may choose to do it differently, but that doesn't mean that their approach would be any more palatable for me than mine would be for them.

Trying to understand what your saying.

Are you saving up £230.000 before you have a child because that's what this article says its costs to raise a child up to the age of 21

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11360819/Average-cost-of-raising-a-child-in-UK-230000.html

 

[marty mcfly]

Listen, lad. When the girls of Blackpool have been binge drinking to oblivion , I look like James Dean

Rapist.

Remember it's the modern world. That's not allowed.

 

[peteblue]

Listen, lad. When the girls of Blackpool have been binge drinking to oblivion , I look like James Dean

Dead like ........

 

[chrissyjack]

Rapist.

Remember it's the modern world. That's not allowed.

You do know that you were produced through two people procreating ?

 

[peteblue]

Rapist.

Remember it's the modern world. That's not allowed.

If they're not drunk he has no chance, even Chrissy doesn't fancy himself.......